Which Pseudecheneis???

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Which Pseudecheneis???

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Specimens from Uttarakhand (a tributary of the Gola River which in turn, is a tributary of the Ganges). Which species do you think this is HH???
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Re: Which Pseudecheneis???

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Awesome fish. If you don't mind this going a little off topic, how did you catch it?

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Looks like eddsi, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Jools wrote:Awesome fish. If you don't mind this going a little off topic, how did you catch it?

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No problem at all, I collected these specimens by kick seining. A few largish Schizothorax were surprise bycatches along with a mix of loaches,Garra and Barilius. The Pseudecheneis were all collected from riffles. I will post a video of the habitat soon.


Silurus wrote:Looks like eddsi, but I'm not 100% sure.
Thanks HH. Is there anyway to differentiate (externally) eddsi from crassicauda and serracula???
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serracula would have a much larger adipose fin, while crassicauda would have a much thicker caudal peduncle.
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Awesome looking species....stick it in an envelope & post it to me!
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Love it! Wish they sold around here.


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exasperatus2002 wrote:Love it! Wish they sold around here.
Pseudecheneis sulcata did enter the trade recently, a few specimens might have entered the US if not for an extreme summer in north India.

Richard B wrote:Awesome looking species....stick it in an envelope & post it to me!
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Silurus wrote:serracula would have a much larger adipose fin, while crassicauda would have a much thicker caudal peduncle.

Thanks HH, one of the specimens collected didn't seem to have any markings but unfortunately, it fell back into the river. I will be visiting the place quite often now (80 kms).
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Another specimen from the same river system but a different (and unconnected) location. How variable is pattern in Pseudeucheneis???


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From the Uttarkhand/Nepal border. Is this serracula HH???

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Surprisingly, this specimen was collected from a slow moving river with ONLY silt for substrate.
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I thought P. serracula has a larger adipose fin.

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Do you think crassicauda is a more plausible option or is it just eddsi???
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I'd say eddsi is more likely.
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Re: Which Pseudecheneis???

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Thanks HH, I will add these pictures to the Catelog accordingly.
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