I find the L134's grow super fast. They go from yoke sack to 3/4" in the first month. They slow a bit ater that but are about 1" at 2 months and then 1 1/2" at 4 to 5 months. After that it is a slow steady growth. At a year they are in the 2" to 3" length for me. I keep mine at 84 F and feed lots!

Personaly I would guess both females. When I had some the males had quite a lot more bristles than the females. The females had one row along the edge of the lip, whereas the males had britles back up away from the edge and way more. Good luck with them. Sure wish I still had mine, maybe I'll find ...

Try feeding them just before you turn the lights off.
Check back the next morning

I don't keep plants in my pleco tank but experienced a similar outbreak. I purchased 12 wild L134's. Within a few weeks of receiving them I experienced a similar outbreak. With one fish loosing his pectoral fin in a very short time. The fish suffered from whitish patches on their backs with the skin ...

Still a bit on the small side, but best guess if I had to would be, both female.

Looks to be damage due to fighting. I see it quite often on my breeding colony, large white patches on there sides. On mine its usually on either side of the body below the dorsal fin. It clears up in time. The dark spots may be the dark colored cells starting to regrow in that area.

Looks to me that they are just frightened and washed out.
Are they like this all the time?

I am going to try and give them more cover as suggested.
Thanks for the input!

Has anyone experienced problems with fin development in their fry? Some of the fry are having issues with fin development. Many are perfect so I can rule out water conditions I think. Although water here is very very soft.During water changes I buffer with Seachem equilibrium and alkalinity booster ...

Haven't updated for a while, fish have been breeding like crazy. They have been sitting on clutches pretty much non stop since April. There hasn't been a time where at least one male has had eggs or fry on the go. I have three 40 gallon breeders on the go for grow out. L134's put on huge growth in ...

Here is a picture of the cave I have been using.

I have had upwards of 20 spawns from my 10 L134's this year. All of the spawns have been in a D shapped cave that is almost the exact dimensions of the adult fish. I had some round and square caves and had fish in them all the time but never a spawn. When I replaced them with the D / triangular ...

I switched to LED to cut down on the lighting cost as well as the heat produced from T5's over 3 tanks in my fish room.

No plants at all, other than a little algae

As for lighting I run a Marineland double bright 36-48" LED on the 90 gallon tank.

Yes I keep a bare tank to make cleaning easier, as well I think it is easier for the fish to find the food I put in there. None of it falls down amongst the gravel to rot. I have a Hydro Sponge Filter #5 PRO with the reticulated foam as well as a Eheim 2028. I just had another clutch laid last-night ...

Thought it might be time for a little update
Here is a vid of my 90 with the L134's feeding.
Sorry for the dirty glass.

Parents are still pumping out clutches, 8 so far with another female trapped in a cave.
Here is a quick video of the youngsters feeding

Kind of looks like all males to me.

Of all the L134 I have seen the border between the Yellow and the black/brown is always well defined a very sharp line. I would agree that your fish #2 is something different. As for the rest they all appear to be L134's, there is a lot of variation in the striping patterns on them.

Here is a vid of my male coaxing his girl into the cave.

Thanks everyone for the nice compliments.

Updated first post with a new video to show growth

MatsP wrote:Going by headshape as well as "hairyness" on the back part of the body, the first appears to be female and the other three male.

--
Mats

Agreed!

First batch now scattered all over the tank second still have yolk sacs under dads care.

I have 11 adults in a 90 gallon tank and use 5 caves, the D shaped ones have seen all the breeding action if that make a difference. My water temp is 84 F. The water here in Vancouver is super soft, don't really fuss to much with hardness, just add some buffers at each water change to keep the GH ...

Thanks guys, really appreciate the input.

Is it common for plecos to lay a clutch of eggs in a cave that contains fry?
I have a male L134 that has fry that are about 10 days post hatch, I just had a peek and there is a new clutch of eggs in there with the Dad and fry. Is this a common occurrence? Any need to worry?

Updated first post with new video and pics.

Note to self (and others), leave mother nature or maybe father in this case, to do its business. Lost whole batch in frysaver to fungus. 47 eggs kaput. Wont do that again. Luckily dad is sitting on yet another batch of eggs already. Also shook out the male that has had a female trapped for going on ...