Help ? Is this Synodontis Multipunctatus?

Buckthorn · Post by **Buckthorn** » 07 Nov 2006, 14:51

Is this Synodontis Multipunctatus?
IÂ´m confused, when I look at the ...back of the fish?, caudal fin, and I donÂ´t see the black V.

Help, please!

Martin S · Post by **Martin S** » 07 Nov 2006, 15:28

I'm definitely no expert, but from the fin shape I'd have to say it was a hybrid!
Am sure sid or one of the other syno experts will be along soon to confirm/deny my response - just hope they prove me wrong!
Martin

Buckthorn · Post by **Buckthorn** » 07 Nov 2006, 16:00

I have bought the fish today sold as a S. Multipunctatus.
They donÂ´t look the same as the 3 I already have at home.

There exist a Sothern form. May it bee that one?

This is one of my old ones.

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 07 Nov 2006, 16:12

Your "old one" is a multipunctatus, your new ones are hybrids.

definitely 100%

Buckthorn · Post by **Buckthorn** » 07 Nov 2006, 16:14

sidguppy wrote:Your "old one" is a multipunctatus, your new ones are hybrids.

definitely 100%

OK, then I have to bring them back to the store tomorrow.

Thanks!

They are back in the store.

seajays · Post by **seajays** » 08 Nov 2006, 18:49

Sidguppy, I have one that looks like the old one that Buckthon posted except it has a spotted belly. Do you know what it could be?...Thanks

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 08 Nov 2006, 19:10

another hybrid then.

S multipunctatus never has a spotted belly.

however you might check on the diverse petricola's in the catelog; petricola DOES have spots on the belly.

so does Synodontis sp 'polli White' from Zambia. those too look a fair bit like multipuncs.

Richard B · Post by **Richard B** » 16 Nov 2006, 12:46

Hi everyone

A decent picture would enable us to give a positive ID on a species in most cases. There does seem to be a contaminant element sneeking into imported batches that i presumed educated retailers would identify & label correctly (in the uk anyway), more than there has been in the past.

I am becoming more alarmed at the amount of new hybrids i'm seeing and the (forgive the description) "variation in quality". Some are blatantly obvious whilst others are really nice looking fish without body deformity or curved dorsal spines etc. When i get round to it i must get some photos done & submit for a "rogues gallery" if one can be produced - there seems to be a need as people are often buying what they genuinely think are true species but turn out to be hybrids - nothing wrong with that if it's your thing & you know you are buying a hybrid.

Any further thoughts anyone?

Richard B

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 16 Nov 2006, 13:01

Richard B wrote:Hi everyone

A decent picture would enable us to give a positive ID on a species in most cases. There does seem to be a contaminant element sneeking into imported batches that i presumed educated retailers would identify & label correctly (in the uk anyway), more than there has been in the past.

I am becoming more alarmed at the amount of new hybrids i'm seeing and the (forgive the description) "variation in quality". Some are blatantly obvious whilst others are really nice looking fish without body deformity or curved dorsal spines etc. When i get round to it i must get some photos done & submit for a "rogues gallery" if one can be produced - there seems to be a need as people are often buying what they genuinely think are true species but turn out to be hybrids - nothing wrong with that if it's your thing & you know you are buying a hybrid.

Any further thoughts anyone?

Richard B

If you (or someone else) got some pictures, that would be a great idea to have, even in the Cat-eLog perhaps.

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Mats

grahams · Post by **grahams** » 16 Nov 2006, 17:46

Your point about setting up a rogues gallery Richard had quite an airing back in August when Lee Finley started a thread about Syno Hybrids that had recieved some coverage in Aqualog News.Sid made the suggestion of including hybrids
photographs on P.C. back then, but nothing further has happened.I also put a URL address on the forum where pictures of the fish in question had been put so we could download them, but I don`t think anyone did.They were put there by Frank Schafer who took the pictures. In a later exchange with Jools, he did express an interest in using them, but by this time they had been removed.Unfortunately at the time I didn`t have much idea about downloading, or much else about computers, hence my suggesting someone else might do it.

Incidentally, the original article is still available to be read on line at http://www.aqualog.de/news/web69/syno69e.pdf .

unfortunately it cannot be printed

Help ? Is this Synodontis Multipunctatus?

Help ? Is this Synodontis Multipunctatus?

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