L114 spawned fist time

rroomm11 · Post by **rroomm11** » 13 Dec 2012, 07:14

Hello!

My L114 spawning first time. Male sitting on eggs now 6 day.
They have about 100-150 eggs.
I have these fishes now 7 years.

250litres
Ph 7,2
GH 2
temp 28 C
Very strong water current.
UV

Any tips and advices about juveniles?

Best
R

PseudaSmart · Post by **PseudaSmart** » 13 Dec 2012, 14:11

Nice job! They are not the easiest to work with.
This info is based on my L600 and L160 spawns which are similar to L114s but there are differences.
The eggs will take about 8 days to hatch. It takes about 6 days after that before they are free swimming.
I usually collect the fry 2-3 days after they hatch because the male has trouble keeping all of them in the cave.
Let the male take care of them as long as possible. Moving the fry to floating fry trays works the best until they are free swimming. Keep the airstones VERY low. Too much water flow will damage the fry. Make sure to add gravel to the trays to keep the bacteria under control. For first meals I use baby brine and Cyclop-eeze. I then make the transition to Spectrum Thera A.

Feel free to send a PM for more information. Christoffer has been successful with L114s.
Regards,
Jim

Linus_Cello · Post by **Linus_Cello** » 13 Dec 2012, 15:18

Congrats! There is an article in Shane's World on breeding these:
http://www.planetcatfish.com/shanesworl ... +leopardus

rroomm11 · Post by **rroomm11** » 15 Dec 2012, 10:20

Finally, in 8-9 day they hatched.
At the moment all looks OK.
Male takes care of them.
As PseudaSmart said, lets male looks for them long as possible.
Then I try put them in groving tank.

PS! My L46 spawned yesterday in another aquarium!

R

rroomm11 · Post by **rroomm11** » 22 Dec 2012, 15:57

Pictures of 7 days old fry.

Bellenz · Post by **Bellenz** » 26 Dec 2012, 03:23

Congratulation.
That is great if the male can hold the eggs until they hatched. What about the survival rate? are all hatched?

bigbird · Post by **bigbird** » 26 Dec 2012, 21:36

wow well done. How many does the male still have in his cave or have they all been released. How many survived. cheers jk

rroomm11 · Post by **rroomm11** » 27 Dec 2012, 12:01

Seems to me hatching precent is near to 100%.
In day 7 I separate fry to 70l growing tank, which have 100% same water.
Today in day 12 yolk sack is almost exhausted and survival rate is still near 100% (I never seen any dead fry).

PseudaSmart · Post by **PseudaSmart** » 27 Dec 2012, 18:16

Nice job so far! Now your work begins with all the fry.
Jim

rroomm11 · Post by **rroomm11** » 30 Dec 2012, 08:10

15 days old fry:

Post by **Barbie** » 31 Dec 2012, 09:36

Thank you for the pictures and updates on the development. These threads make it much easier to gauge progress as we work with less commonly spawned species! This is great!

Barbie

rroomm11 · Post by **rroomm11** » 06 Jan 2013, 11:08

21 days old fry

Flyfisher · Post by **Flyfisher** » 23 Jan 2013, 22:13

Hi,

Saw this thread when you first announced the success.
How are things now???
Can you tell me about the cave please?How large? Positioning of it in the tank? Closed at one end?

And what else is in the tank? Or is this purely a breeding type tank for a pair of these plecos?

I have 2 L114 growing well in a Geophagus community and will be moving them all to a 6.5ft tank fairly soon. I'm looking forward to seeing what sex these fish are? Now they are at 6-7 inches. But I never get a good enough look to sex them.

Cheers

Gavin

rroomm11 · Post by **rroomm11** » 24 Jan 2013, 12:26

Everything looks good so far.

At the moment they are about 18-20mm.

Spawning occurred in community welse tank (L333-5;L411-3; L002-5)
Tank is about 250l, with heavy filtration and current with lot of caves diffrent sizes.
Spawnig cave is self made of slate, one end openened (200x70x50mm) and positioned in one end of tank under slate and bogwood.

It takes about month when they start courtship. Before that by nights take place several fightings with rival male.
They try 2-3 times in slate cave before finally laid eggs.

In weekend I try take fresh pictures.

R.

Flyfisher · Post by **Flyfisher** » 24 Jan 2013, 21:59

Excellent, I look forward to seeing updated pics.
Thanks for the info.

What length are the adults??
That's an interesting mix of catfish in the one tank. It obviously Didnt put these two lovers off their stroke! [SMILING FACE WITH SMILING EYES]

rroomm11 · Post by **rroomm11** » 26 Jan 2013, 16:26

Here some fresh pictures:

Flyfisher · Post by **Flyfisher** » 27 Jan 2013, 20:08

Ah they're looking grand! Must be so good to watch them all wriggling about together.
Thanks

Gavin

rroomm11 · Post by **rroomm11** » 17 Feb 2013, 07:51

New pictures taken today:

rob rensen · Post by **rob rensen** » 17 Feb 2013, 16:27

great job...well done !!

Post by **Barbie** » 19 Feb 2013, 18:11

Very well done! Look at those cute little buggers! That really makes me want to get mine doing something besides eating and tussling around ;). Nice job!

Barbie

PseudaSmart · Post by **PseudaSmart** » 21 Feb 2013, 01:13

Nice! how many fry? Be careful not to provide small caves or pieces of wood. They will all pile in and ones on the bottom ones will suffocate.
Jim

flatfish · Post by **flatfish** » 21 Feb 2013, 07:58

Congratulations. The young are stunning. I'll have to increase the current in my tank and try and get something happening.

rroomm11 · Post by **rroomm11** » 21 Feb 2013, 10:38

There are about 100 younsters (Dont count it yet exactly). Fry surviving Rate about 95%.
So far seems to me all going well

R.

Linus_Cello · Post by **Linus_Cello** » 22 Feb 2013, 20:53

PseudaSmart wrote:Nice! how many fry? Be careful not to provide small caves or pieces of wood. They will all pile in and ones on the bottom ones will suffocate.
Jim

So what do you suggest for hiding places? Clay pots? A big cave?

PseudaSmart · Post by **PseudaSmart** » 22 Feb 2013, 23:34

Linus, thank you VERY much for the question! I must have gotten distracted while typing.
I wanted to say: do not provide pieces of wood WITH small pockets or groves.

I do use wood but it has gentle curves. I also use tube shaped caves that are open on both ends. I am experimenting with other materials but have not found anything for when they are small. They do not like PVC.

Sorry for the confusion.
Jim

pleco rob · Post by **pleco rob** » 23 Feb 2013, 18:18

at what size did they breed, and can u post a pic of your breeding tank. I have 9 adults around 8-10 inches in a 220 gallon and have seen little activity other than eating and crappin. thanks

rroomm11 · Post by **rroomm11** » 26 Feb 2013, 16:49

pleco rob wrote:at what size did they breed, and can u post a pic of your breeding tank. I have 9 adults around 8-10 inches in a 220 gallon and have seen little activity other than eating and crappin. thanks

Breeding Size is for male about 25cm, for female about 20cm.
Breeding cave is in a left side of tank under smaller piece of bogwood and rocks.

rroomm11 · Post by **rroomm11** » 09 Mar 2013, 07:09

Fresh pictures:

Post by **Barbie** » 11 Mar 2013, 07:04

OK, that is a sight to strive for. What an awesome view! Very nicely done!

Barbie

flatfish · Post by **flatfish** » 11 Mar 2013, 09:42

Awesome.

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