Hypancistrus sp. L129 or not?

[AleGer]

Please help to ID fish #1 and #2. They both came an year ago as L340, but as I can see they aren't.


I think #2 is Hypancistrus debilittera (L129). And #1 also look like L129. But they are quite different as we can see on the photo.
I though that #1 could be Hypancistrus furunculus (L199), but the stripes are too narrow to be L199.
So is there any suggestions?

[MatsP]

I'd say L129 - primarily based on the fact that almost all fish with those colours and that region are L129, no matter what name it gets sold as.

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Mats

[Yann]

Hi!!

To me also these look like Hypancistrus debilittera!!

Cheers
Yann

[AleGer]

But this two fish has quite different pattern. Also #1 has clearly defined "E" letter on the head, and #2 doesn't.
So can two different exemplars Hypancistrus debilittera has clearly and badly defined "E" letter on the head?

[Yann]

L129 can show a great variation of pattern, some could even be almost all brown with little lines

if you had another pictures of the one on the right, especially from upper

Cheers
Yann

[Yann]

But still it is no L199

Could evetually be L340, but would need to confirm it...

But I still believe it is L129

[AleGer]

One more photo. Not exactly from the upper, but I hope it will help:)

[Yann]

mmmm

it could well be a L340 this one

Cheers
Yann

[AleGer]

One more photo. Here you can see the "E" letter on the head.

[FishFreak95]

L015? L168?

EDIT: Never Mind. It cant be these.

[AleGer]

Judging the teeth I think it is Hypancistrus.

[Yann]

Hi Alex!!

yes it is L340 for me

Cheers
Yann

[Jon]

imo, i would still say L-129. The head seems less, well, large, than that of L-340.

[Yann]

the fish looks young and quite small...
It is why I suspect it can be a L340, also the fact the fish looks rather flat.
I think it could be a potential female
Cheers
Yann

[AleGer]

This fish is about 4-5 cm SL. And It was bought a year ago in a size approximately 4 cm TL.