Thanks!

Well at first i have two males. And i thought for a while to keep only one. I will do it now.

I can not give them a dedicated breeding tank, but i will try to get it close as possible.

Thanks again,
Zohar

Thanks Mats.

I searched, but found only pepole like me looking for tips. I will run more searchs on my evening time.

Regards,
Zohar

Hi,

Without waking up some old postd.

Did anyone here able to breed the L204 recently? Any tips that you can give?

I got the L260 breeding in the same tank (and NBs), but the L204 are still enigma to me.

Thanks,
Zohar

Thanks, will look into them.

Zohar

Hi,

Can any one recommend on interested fish shops in Hannover or Berlin (or near by). I am planning to be in Germany at the second half of the week and will be happy see some good shops.

Thanks,
Zohar

I would also say the first two are males and the last one female. I have six of them at similar sizes (sub 9cm SL) for almost a year now, and one of the males started recently to show much more hairs, so we don't need to wait till 11cm to sex them. It is a goog news for me, hopefully they will breed ...

I managed to take some pictures for the big "male"

What do you think? is it a male? Is it too fat for a male?





Zohar

Thanks apistomaster. I am not sure i gave them the best treatment in the first months, they were added to isolation tank with BN that dominated the tank and the food. I am still interested in there body shape. Mine are very rounded, and i think the big ones are both males. Are Panaque maccus males ...

i bought 5 Panaque maccus last year at 2cm size. Today i have two fishes that are ~6cm and three that are ~3cm. Is it normal? Is there anything that i can do? The two big one are very rounded but has odontodes. Are Panaque maccus males very rounded? I wish i could add pictures, but i can not get ...

you right.

I am trying also L260 & L162 and BN that breed like rabbits.

Zohar

I have 5 of them, they are beautiful! And very active. A year is a long time..., but yes let keep exchanging notes. I don't think the articles have all the information we need, so more info will help. We are several people here in Israel that bought a group of L204 for breeding, so i am expecting ...

Thanks Larry,

I was hopping for less, but i will wait.

Thanks, i am trying my best.

If anyone know how fast they grow i would love to here it.

Regards,
Zohar

Thanks Mats. So if my L204 are 8-9cm SL, i still have a long time to wait...

Zohar

Hi, When you are measuring the L204 length where do you end the fish? at the end of it tail fins? or at the middle of it tail fins? The L204 tail fins are 4 cm out of 10-11 total. I am asking as i been told that i will be able to sex the L204 at 11cm, but the fishes are close to 11cm total ...

so i need another one or two centimeters, how long it could take?

Zohar

Hi,

I have five L204 at the sizes of 8cm - 10cm. How long it will take them to reach breeding age/size? Is 11cm is a breeding size?

Zohar

Hi,

At what size the start to be hairy? I have some that are at 8cm without hire, can i define them as female?

Regards,
Zohar

ok, i will continue the change the water till i reach 250µS, it will take a month or two, i changing 5% twice a week. entering 100µS new water, this is the faster i could go with my RO system, i have the time...

I moved all of them to the big tank (300L) and they are now with the 5 P.maccus. It is not an easy task to take the P.maccus out. Is it a must or i could wait with it? I think that both species are still not mature for breeding but are very close to that (0-6 months. Conductivity is 600 and going ...

In the big tank (~300L) i have also 5 P.maccus that i am trying to breed, is it going to be a problem? And what about the water conductivity ? I will start to move them in two weeks from today (making sure they are not sick). But i thought to keep a pair in the small tank, it is much easier to ...

Hi,

I have 5 of them in a 60L tank and i would like to breed them there.

How many should i keep there? I can easily sex them...

What is the water conductivity that i should reach? I would like to breed them at 400, is it low enough?

Any other tip? food?

Zohar

Where do you buy them? and on what price? I may want to join you.

Zohar

Thanks.

The tank has drizzle water exchange and i am only cheking the conductivity. The water should be ok.

I think you are right, the most problematic fish is the second in size fish (look like male, as some as the big one).

Where is the point where it become dangerous to the fish?

Zohar

I thing is a territory issue, i have one big one that run after all the others. I added more hiding places, but i am note sure what else i could do. I will not move new fishes to my main tank, am i????

I bought two days ago 5 L204 at about 9 cm and put them in a 60L tank. I just notice that one of them has very white skin around his head and nose. What it could be? He is active. Could it be bites from the others L204? Stress ? They just arrived from Pero 4 days ago. The tanks has only those 5 L204 ...

Well review them carefully, they are hard to find... i have two "big" ones at 7cm, probably males and three small onces 5 cm could be still young or female. I think i will give tham several more months, what do you think?

They are not easily sexed.

In that case, could make more sense to wait some more months before starting to breed them, at least i will know they ready. And not wasting a tank for nothing.

What do you think?

Zohar

At what age and size Panaque maccus start breeding?

I have five of them for almost a year and they are about 7 cm. I got them at about 3-4 cm. Is the grow speed normal?

Thanks,
Zohar