oh, and i found a tetra, but i doubt llanos, it says upper orinoco river basin (s)

thiss one:

http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/Species ... p?id=12394

k guys, i decided my stocking, got tired of the stupid searching, so i broke down for Pristella maxillaris , Mikrogeophagus ramerizi , and Otocinclus vittatus . my lfs prolly doesnt have vittatus, but they look pretty darn close, prolly no one could tell difference. but u guys the catfish experts ...

hello, yes its me, back again with some irritating question :D anyway, back to the previous question, which fish are from the Llanos laguna? i am having a lot of trouble finding the one-line, the deal with anubiasdesign is very tough, so i need some exit routes. i have found 2 places to buy ...

cool, thanks, i'll see when my tank is done planting, that i get fish from them, they are well known, so they must be good.

it has been a long time since I was last here, but i got my tank running with almost all the plants i need. unfortunately, i am having trouble finding all the fish but the Rams :lol:

Can somebody who went to the Llanos list ANY possible fish that CAN be found there?

I need help with fish. I have ...

well, I know a good supplier of SA fish in San Francisco, and I will get the vittatus and the 1 lined pencilfish from them. I believe it is called Ocean Aquariums.

Looking at Orinoco in Fishbase, it lists these two:
Nannostomus unifasciatus
Nannostomus anduzei

The genus Copella are also in the same family, and look similar, and the following as listed as Orinoco:
Copella compta
Copella natteri
Copella eigenmanni
Copella metae

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Mats

Thats awesome ...

it says that the Nannostomus trifasciatus is found in the Amazon River basin. it doesnt mention anything on the Orinoco.

cool, I love pencilfish, they are beautiful, where can I find them to purchase? Altums are what Takashi Amano keeps in his HUGE house tank. He has like a school of like 25, amazing.

which pencilfish come from the Llanos, and do they come native like the Rams or trapped occasioanlly like the otocinclus vittatus?

accortding to most sites, 80 is the best for the plants and the fish. Penclifish come from this Llanos?!?!?!?!? those fish are awesome!!! I cant keep hatchets because my tank is open top.

hows this for stocking?:

1 pair of Rams
9 pencilfish
7 otocinclus vittatus.

82 might be the MAX for all life ...

I understand that, or at least now I do :D . The guys at the c i c h l i d forums would freak if I put Apistos and Rams in a 20 long, they say the MINiMUM size for 1 PAIR of Rams, so the only thing I could keep is a docile fish, schooling fish, and the Rams. The docile fish are the Otos, and there ...

yea, I just wanted to create an authentic biotope because most other biotopes are just attempts at true biotopes. I guess that fish will be hard to find and buy, seeing that I am 14, so maybe I will go with a Orinoco "general" biotope. If I think I can just have a pair of Rams and about like, wat ...

is there a way on this page to tell which are Llanos and which are not Llanos Laguna?

Thanks,

Nick

Can you list ALL fish that come from the Llanos Lagunas (not only catfish, ALL )

Then I can pick some out and ask the cichlid forums, and here, whether or not it would be a good combo. Also, I am getting a few plants and they are already on the way, but I am unsure if they are Llanos material. I ...

hatchets are crazy jumpers FIY, my tank is open top, darn. I guess I cant have tetras

Are there any others that come from that area?

How about this?

1 pair of Blue Rams
11 rummynoses (does anyone know if it comes from the Llanos?)
7 otocinclus (which others?)

well then I guess otocinclus would be a better choice. Which otos come from this region? Vittatus? If I got the otos, how many should I have? 5?

Idk if I should get the tetras, all the ones from that region do not school like other tetras. Are rummynoses found there? they school like crazy!!!!

if ...

well, I am thinking about not getting tetras and only a pair of Rams and vittata. Do you know any tetras that come from there that I could possibly put in.

I would have this:

1 pair of Rams
11 tetras
1 vittata

Good or bad idea?

oh well, i guess I'll stick to either a clown pleco or farowella vittatus

anyone know?

I am confused wat u mean, u mean that the cat-e-log does not show the exact location, but more of a generic?

So Otos are from Llanos?

its 12 tall x 12 deep x 30 long. So otos are not found there? Only Farowellas?

thats awesome!!!! Should I just keep 1? Oh yea, otos are the best algae eaters, are any found in the Laguna?

yea, farowellas aare better, they eat algae, maccus mainly eats wood. How many farowellas would go good in my 20 gallon long with 13 red phantom tetras and 2 blue rams?

they come from the Llanos Laguna? Thats awesome!!!! I love farowellas

oh yea, so is the found in the Llanos?
[Mod edit: Make clog tags in link, and remove duplicate name --Mats]

Are there anymore? That one is WAY to big, 11.8" , the tank is 30"x12"x12". Man, I really need one to clean algae, the best is otocinclus, but they are not from the Laguna Llanos

I looked at that, it says they found many tetras and German Rams, but they didnt say anything about any cats in the Laguna part of the Llanos

ok, I am new here, but I would like to know. I am about to set up a Laguna of the Llanos plains biotope (if u know wat that is). It will be 82 degrees, and I will have 13 red phantom tetras, a pair of Mikrogeophagus Ramerizi, and a suckermouth cat. I cant find any suckermouths that come from the ...