Noturus flavus Size

[Wyomingite]

The size for Noturus flavus in the Cat-eLog is a bit smaller than actual potential growth. I looked the species up out of curiousity, since it's one of the few catfish native to Wyoming. The size for it is listed as 5.1". This species can potentially reach 12" (300 mm) in the wild, and 8" (200mm) isn't uncommon.

[pleconut]

Not disputing what you've stated here but could it apply to the potential size in captivity I wonder.

[bekateen]

I looked up the species on Fishbase, and that site lists max SL as 31cm. I've submitted a database correction to update the Cat-eLog page.

Thanks for the tip,
Eric

[Jools]

A madtom that gets a foot long? I'd never have guessed - but it looks right. Will accept the change.

Jools

[bekateen]

Thanks Jools. Another issue resolved.

[Wyomingite]

It's actually a game fish in Wyoming. State record on hook and line is 10" and 0.35 lbs. I wanted to collect some back for a tank in my college days, long, long ago, but the permits for collecting and keeping game fish were just too much of a hassle to make it worth it.

[Jools]

Fishing records however tend to use TL and not SL.

Jools

[Wyomingite]

True, but if you take 2" give or take off the TL for the caudal the SL is still 8".

My real pioint was that after 25 years knowing that it's classified as a game fish, it's still hard for me to think of a madtom in that way, kind of like you were saying a madtom that gets a foot long surprised you.

Ivan

[bekateen]

You kids are dickering as to whether this fish is 8" or 10" (SL or TL), but the recorded max SL is over 12" - there's something to chew on!

[Birger]

the max SL fish are from a Lake Michigan version of the fish if I remember correctly.All others are smaller.

Birger

[Wyomingite]

Ahhhh, sorry Bekateen. Didn't mean to sound like I was stirring up trouble, not my intent. Just found the preconceptions interesting.

@Birger, I've seen pictures from some caught in Montana on a fishing website that I estimated were pushing the 12" standard length as well, but really caught my eye was the great golden yellow color those fish had.

[bekateen]

Ahhhh, sorry Bekateen. Didn't mean to sound like I was stirring up trouble, not my intent. Just found the preconceptions interesting.

. Dude, I was just teasing you and Jools. No harm, no foul.

Cheers, Eric

[Birger]

@Birger, I've seen pictures from some caught in Montana on a fishing website that I estimated were pushing the 12" standard length as well, but really caught my eye was the great golden yellow color those fish had.

Nuff said, Would love some like that!! not allowed to keep them in alberta anymore, even though we have them in one river in the province.


Birger