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[walshy317]

hay guys new bristlenose pleco diffrent to the others
it has spots all over it and little white tips on its tail.(female)
its spawned with a normal bristlenose and its spawn looks like the female with the spots and the white tips .

thanks alot
marc

[walshy317]

the babies
only saved 13 of them the rest got eaten. =(

[Silurus]

Ancistrus cf_cirrhosus

[walshy317]

nope not one of them

[Silurus]

So, how is it different?

[MatsP]

I would agree with Silurus on this one. Unless you have GOOD indicators they are NOT that species, you should treat them as such. I don't see anything in your fish that is definitely different from the common variety.

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Mats

[Birger]

If you are adamant it is a different species you should not be retaining any of the hybrid young IMO.

But I agree with the others,it is probably as Silurus has mentioned.

[MatsP]

If you are adamant it is a different species you should not be retaining any of the hybrid young IMO.

But I agree with the others,it is probably as Silurus has mentioned.

I'd agree with that...

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Mats

[walshy317]

arh ok
its diffrent with spots are more spaced out and with 2 white spots on its tail.
mabe it is a hybrid, its young look realy nice.
and why should i keep the young??? they would be hybrids?
thanks again
marc

[Silurus]

But the white patches on the tail are present in most common bristlenoses (aka Ancistrus cf. cirrhosus), just that they usually fade with age. The spacing of the spots seems no different and I would attribute it merely to variation.

[MatsP]

Well, I do suspect your fish are all the same common species, but if they are not, then they are indeed hybrids, and whilst it is not NECESSARY to cull the fry, you certainly should not let them out of your keep, or let them breed further. There is absolutely no good reason to make MORE mess out of the unknown species.

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Mats

[walshy317]

not really fair on the babys really you carnt control nature.

[DutchFry]

fish in a tank has nothing to do with nature.

these Ancistrus are Ancistrus cf. cirrhosus, no doubt about that, so you can just raise the young and sell them to others.

[MatsP]

not really fair on the babys really you carnt control nature.

Sure, but you have full control over what happens you your aquarium in the sense that you put the fish in the same tank. If you don't want Ancistrus to breed, don't put two of opposite sex in the same tank!

But as I said, I do think the fish you have pictures here is the common variety. If your OTHER fish are different from this, we really need to see what they look like to determine if they too are the common ones or not. There is some variation in them, so I expect they all are. But without seeing them, it's impossible to tell.

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Mats

[walshy317]

fish in a tank has nothing to do with nature.

these Ancistrus are Ancistrus cf. cirrhosus, no doubt about that, so you can just raise the young and sell them to others.

ok thanks
how much would the babies sell for??? around about

[MatsP]

Around here, you'd be lucky to find someone to give them to. I used to sell batches of 30 or so for 50p per fish, but the shop I sold them have two breeding pairs, so they will not pay for any babies. Local Maidenhead Aquatics are not allowed (on order by area manager) to pay for any fish brought in by customers.

But shops generally sell 1-2" fish for around £3-5. The usual ratio of "buy to sell" when the fish comes from a wholesalers is 3x, but shops are not going to pay wholesaler prices to customers bringing fish in.

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Mats