Red tail/Tiger Shovelnose cross

Tihsho · Post by **Tihsho** » 21 Jun 2006, 04:45

Let me just say I put this thread here since this SA cross breed is more like a product of man not SA.

Just wanted to get some info on them and or some pics. Info on them are pretty hard to come by.

ATM I'm getting a little 3-4 incher to raise up then off to a larger tank it will go.

pictus_man_77 · Post by **pictus_man_77** » 21 Jun 2006, 17:22

if i were you, i would not get one. But, if you are getting one, then treat it as a RTC, and not a tiger shovelnose.

LimaShovel · Post by **LimaShovel** » 21 Jun 2006, 20:38

they are awesome catfish my friend had one and I wish I could get one.

Tihsho · Post by **Tihsho** » 21 Jun 2006, 23:47

So just as hungry & just as huge. How about their growth speed? Same? Faster? Slower?

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 22 Jun 2006, 10:30

A hybrid will often grow much faster, and to a larger adult size than either of the parent species. This phenomenon is called hybrid vigour.

Expect this fish to reach over 6 feet long.

I hope you have a big enough pond.

Have you read the big cats sticky?

The Stig · Post by **The Stig** » 22 Jun 2006, 16:08

I agree with above.

Both parents are huge, around 6 feet, and crosses grow even bigger so these will be truly huge creatures. I dont think you should keep one, and i wouldn't see the point of buying them to 'grow on' because they will grow so quickly.

Carl.

necrocanis · Post by **necrocanis** » 26 Jun 2006, 05:08

mine is around 27" right now. I have talked with a guy from MFK that has one around 30" got mine just under 23", and now 9 months later it's 27" with no signs of slowing. Keeping him for life(either his or mine)!

diburning · Post by **diburning** » 27 Jul 2006, 23:47

I'm new here and I'm not sure if this is allowed or not, but here is a link to a thread on another forum where people have some of them.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forum ... hp?t=32122

I think that they are artificially created because they are from different genuses.

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 28 Jul 2006, 08:33

ugh!

to see the pics on that forum you need to be logged in

crapmastery of the highest degree I say

you can take a safe bet they're created; in the wild TSN and RTC go out of each others' way even if they share habitat wich I doubt (the TSN probably likes shallower water, but I may be wrong).

maybe with some research it is even traceable by who and when these hybrids were created the first time; it's definitely traceable where they are still created today.

pictus_man_77 · Post by **pictus_man_77** » 28 Jul 2006, 10:41

I must admit, they do look quite nice, but i cant see why you would consider buying one

sidguppy · Post by **sidguppy** » 28 Jul 2006, 11:24

they make good eating.

it seems baby Red Tails, baby TSN and baby hybrid Pims are increasingly popular with the Chinese & Orientals over here.
got that info from a LFS owner, one of the non-BSing kind.

it makes sense; they're completely unsuitable for the home aquarium, but in Brasil people eat these too.

Those Chinese etc buyers buy them small, raise them in indoor or heated Koi-ponds or containers and then eat them as a very exclusive dinner (at least in Europe it's exclusive food).

Just like buying a pig, turkey or a rabbit and eating it whenever Xmas, Thanksgiving etc arrives.

I wouldn't say no to a big plate of grilled hybrid Pim with Chinese spices, rice and a pair of chopsticks