Help me ID my plecos, please.

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Help me ID my plecos, please.

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Hi,everyone.

This past weekend, I found this guy at a local pet store and I just had to bring him home. But I cant seem to figure out exactly what kind of pleco he is. Any help would be appreciated. The tank was labeled "Orange Spot Gib. Pleco" and I think its an LDA31???

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While I'm here, can anyone tell me if this is an L066 or an L333??

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Post by Silurus »

Your first fish is
Pterygoplichthys joselimaianus
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Thanks, looks like I was way off on that one. :oops:
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Post by Yann »

HI!

And the second looks like
Hypancistrus sp(L066)


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The second one is Hypancistrus sp. L-333. :D
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I also think the second are
Hypancistrus sp(L333)


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Post by Yann »

Hi!

That was my first belief also, but I found this individual not high enough and too much elongated to be L333...

Of course the specimen here has sort of yellow lines...

I have seen some specimens of Hypancistrus being sold as yellow zebra that has quite some similarities with L66 but has some sort of lemon yellow line... I wonder if it might be one of these...

How much did you paid for this?

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The shape of the head and the very big eyes match L333...it doesn't with L66, I think this is a young species and thats why the body not seams so high.

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I'd agree with Janne, it's a L-333.
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Post by Kristofer »

Thanks all,
I'm leaning towards the L333 myself, though at first I thought he(she) was an L066. Maybe later you guys can help narrow down which L numbers my two VERY different Gold Nuggets are?
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Kristofer wrote:Thanks all,
I'm leaning towards the L333 myself, though at first I thought he(she) was an L066. Maybe later you guys can help narrow down which L numbers my two VERY different Gold Nuggets are?
Once Jools fixes the Catfish of the Month articles (all of them are broken), you should be able to go to the December 2000 COTM article. It's quite easy to differentiate them, really. Briefly (from memory, could be completely wrong):
L18 - Small almost white spots.
L81 - Small yellow spots.
L177 - Bigger yellow spots. [I'm definite on this one, as it's the one I've got].

However, Janne for instance, seems to believe that they are all the same specie, just differet color variations, and that the variation can be quite big for the same location.

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Yes I do, but they should and shall be treated as their own species or local variants.

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Janne wrote:Yes I do, but they should and shall be treated as their own species or local variants.
By that, you mean:
A) We shouldn't try to crossbreed different varieties.
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B) Treat them as different species until scientifically described as one speceie.

is that a correct interpretation?

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Yes, that is what I mean.

Even species that we know are the same we should try to keep the different varieties cleen. I am little afraid that what is happen with all kinds of crossbreeds and hybrids showing up on the market will make all to a really big mess in the end and the only ones that can prevent that to happen or at least delay it with the time it's needed until enough people understand that it is us that keep them as a hobby that are the target...they do like this because we buy it and if we not do that they have no reason to continue.

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Janne wrote:Yes, that is what I mean.

Even species that we know are the same we should try to keep the different varieties cleen. I am little afraid that what is happen with all kinds of crossbreeds and hybrids showing up on the market will make all to a really big mess in the end and the only ones that can prevent that to happen or at least delay it with the time it's needed until enough people understand that it is us that keep them as a hobby that are the target...they do like this because we buy it and if we not do that they have no reason to continue.

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I agree fully, and I asked more to make sure everyone understood the issue, than for me to understand it.

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Post by Yann »

Hi!

For the point you can see what has been done for years with cichlids... mixing up local variant of a same species together....

Right now it is the total opposite especially among African cichlids, South & Central American cichlids are starting to be kept that way, but it is still quite rare now...

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