Hypancistrus hybrid

Suckermouth · Post by **Suckermouth** » 12 Jul 2012, 15:08

Thanks for the pictures, interesting stuff. The hybrid now looks strangely similar to the Xingu type fish...

jac wrote:I see you have more hybrids...
Are you breeding hybrids deliberately???

I'm assuming you didn't read his post...

AleGer · Post by **AleGer** » 12 Jul 2012, 15:11

Are you breeding hybrids deliberately???

Of-course not.

As I wrote before many times it was not on purpose:) And I finally split all the species.

I currently have 11 hybrid fish. I just want to grow them up to take photos.

AleGer · Post by **AleGer** » 12 Jul 2012, 15:15

Thanks for the pictures, interesting stuff.

Thanks! I'm glad you enjoy them.

The hybrid now looks strangely similar to the Xingu type fish...

Totally agree with you. If I didn't know that it is 100% hybrid I would say that it is something of the Lower Xingu type (I'm talking about the main fish of the thread).

AleGer · Post by **AleGer** » 21 Aug 2012, 15:29

The hybrid becomes bigger and bigger:

Judging the pattern I suspect that the father could be L287, not L411. In the cave with eggs were L411 for sure. Also my L411 have pattern not usual for common L411, It could be so that my L411 are really a cross L066XL411.

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 21 Aug 2012, 16:18

Hi!!

That is interesting, still I can see some orange coloured present on the head!!
The specimens involved will depend what would have been present in th tank.

It is always tough to determin the parents as all have reticulated pattern!!The same could be said with 2 spotted species

It could easily pass for a full species...and not an Hybrid, unlike when a spotted species is crossed with a reticulated one-
What is his size??
Cheers
Yann

AleGer · Post by **AleGer** » 22 Aug 2012, 06:09

The specimens involved will depend what would have been present in th tank.

There were in the tank:
- females only L340
- males L340, L411, L287

In the cave with the eggs were L411.

What is his size??

Currently it is 57 mm TL

Suckermouth · Post by **Suckermouth** » 22 Aug 2012, 06:21

Daaaaaaaaang that's a tricky looking hybrid. I'm with Yann on how it looks.

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 22 Aug 2012, 16:45

Hi!!

I think that if you found the L411 male with the eggs, there is no reason to think he is not the father, I have never seen an individual taking care of the fry or eggs of another...he would certainly eat it that care of them...too much energy for futur individuals not carrying his genes!!

Cheers
Yann

Suckermouth · Post by **Suckermouth** » 22 Aug 2012, 20:36

Yann wrote:Hi!!

I think that if you found the L411 male with the eggs, there is no reason to think he is not the father, I have never seen an individual taking care of the fry or eggs of another...he would certainly eat it that care of them...too much energy for futur individuals not carrying his genes!!

Cheers
Yann

Hypothetically, but this has not been proven in loricariids. Care of another fish's young has been recorded in other species; the benefit is it shows you're a good parent!

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 22 Aug 2012, 22:40

jac wrote:I see you have more hybrids...
Are you breeding hybrids deliberately???

My personal opinion is that I find that extremely disappointing. I ruins everything about Hypancistrus...

Jac,

Did you read the first post in this thread?

Jools

AleGer · Post by **AleGer** » 21 Mar 2013, 15:09

Now my hybrids become much bigger.

Here is one of mine L411XL136

And L411XL340 already could be sexed. And it is male.

AleGer · Post by **AleGer** » 06 Jun 2013, 10:13

Some new photos of my hybrids Hypancistrus sp. L411XL136:

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