Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

[Martin S]

OK, they may be Tatia sp. D also. We will see when photos arrive.Steve

Yes, will upload the pics later. Apparently they came from Aquarium Glaser as T.galaxias.

Martin

p.s. I'm guessing you know the chap my T.gyrina came from - do you know if he has any left from that batch available? I'd like to add a few more to my lone female and make a small group again.

[The.Dark.One]

He sold them all very quickly. Pier has some in though, or at least they did a few weeks back.

[Martin S]

He sold them all very quickly. Pier has some in though, or at least they did a few weeks back.

Thanks Steve

[Marc van Arc]

yes, they are a lovely yet weird fish. My friend still has his pair. They are adult and sexually mature at just 5 inch approx.:

Female
http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/auche ... sp_3_2.jpg

Male
http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/auche ... sp_3_3.jpg

Steve,
It may be your friend's fishes are better fed, but mine are much flatter and more uniformly coloured. None of those 5 has anything that looks like an "upgoing" cranal area. Too bad the tank got a bit messy yesterday, therefore I decided to take no pictures.
The fishes of your friend remind me more of my trio I still haven't found a name for, but which look strikingly familiar to T. coriaceus, but with an adipose.

[The.Dark.One]

Hi Marc

These were bought around the same time as Neil had them in (but from another, local, shop). This is a pic of them as a smaller fish:

http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/auche ... s_sp_3.jpg

They could be different of course.

[Marc van Arc]

They could be different of course.

Yes, but it remains difficult. My C-log pictures (taken on arrival over here in Feb 2007) indeed don't show very flattened specimens, but when seeing them yesterday their shape reminded me a lot of

Trachycorystes sp(1)

.

As said before, it could be they are underfed compared to your friend's specimens. They are the "Auchenipterinae sp. Guyana" of my large tank, thus always the last to come out for food.
That was also one of the main reasons I had to say goodbye to my swimming dustbins, T. galeatus. The other swimming bin, Liosomadoras oncinus, was vetoed by my family.......

[The.Dark.One]

This is a view of the head of the adult male. I think it is different to your fish as your clog photos show a very wide head in proportion to rest of body (albeit they needed feeding up).

[Marc van Arc]

My auchenipterid hobby got a significant boost yesterday when Alex returned from OF-Aquaristik (aka Tanganyika.de) with a most unexpected species.
While I expected Triportheus albus (and/or nematurus) and Brachychalcinus orbicularis (all characins), he brought me 2 (females; these were the last 2 specimens)

Ageneiosus cf_atronasus

. How about that for a huge surprise
It was rather late when I added them to the tank yesterday evening, so I didn't see much of them then, but this morning they seem to be doing okay.
Pictures asap.

[The.Dark.One]

Nice!

[Marc van Arc]

[Martin S]

Very nice Marc - a lovely addition, am very jealous (not that I have room for them!)
Looks like they are reasonably active too, so even better!
Martin

[Marc van Arc]

Thanks both and yes, the hobby could certainly do with a boost. They seem pretty happy and were feeding on mosquito larvae just now.

On a side note: are or aren't these the same that Neil has (had?) in stock for some time now?
They were discussed in here, but I was unable to find the right page......
I recall some people thought those were

Ageneiosus sp(3)

which I doubted, yet I didn't see them in real life. Weren't you interested in them Martin or am I completely off?

Will see if I can find the page.

[Marc van Arc]

For some reason the image won't come along, but I found it on page 62, somewhat below the middle.
I'm still convinced it's not Ageneiosus sp. 3, but I'm also pretty sure it's not A. cf atronasus either.....


Edit: retrieved it from the Pier site; credit Neil Woodward

Ageneiosus sp. blue.jpg

[Martin S]

Am always interested! As much as I'd love these, my tank isn't big enough to give them the swimming space they'd need. Keep us informed on how they are getting on Marc.

[kruseman]

Very nice catfish, Marc.
They look a bit like these:

[Marc van Arc]

Well Arjan, you've managed to find a picture of a species I've never seen before.
But indeed, there seem to be quite some species that don't grown huge or rather stay relatively small. I am still very happy with my two new specimens, although the numbers of Gnathocharax are rapidly decreasing.......
One can be seen most of the day; the other hides somewhere (and I would really like to know where; saves me a lot of time trying to find it with a flash light), but shows up almost immediately after lights out.
This tank is doing fine atm, with the exception of the Auchenipterus nigripinnis. Keeping them in there is no longer an option, but I'm afraid their behaviour will stress the fishes in the large tank as well (although Alex doesn't think so).
Thus, I'm afraid that's the last option, unless someone else can provide them a quiet tank.

[kruseman]

I am still very happy with my two new specimens, although the numbers of Gnathocharax are rapidly decreasing........

Why is that?

Thus, I'm afraid that's the last option, unless someone else can provide them a quiet tank.

Why don't you want to keep them anymore? Are the new inhabitants bad company for them?

I have a quiet tank and am possibly willing to buy them.

[Marc van Arc]

I have a quiet tank and am possibly willing to buy them.

After a long and nice phone conversation Kruseman has decided not to buy them, because he can't provide them with a tank that can fulfill their needs.

Bijn, could they be an asset to your subtropical tank? They originate from Argentina, so they should be able to cope with lower temperatures.
We are talking of

Auchenipterus nigripinnis

[Bijn]

Bijn, could they be an asset to your subtropical tank? They originate from Argentina, so they should be able to cope with lower temperatures.
We are talking of

Auchenipterus nigripinnis

I' am planning a second subtropical tank, I think they would fit in this one perfectly.

[Marc van Arc]

I'm planning a second subtropical tank, I think they would fit in this one perfectly.

Great! That will make your future trip to Eindhoven even more rewarding, as you'll go home with 6 fishes instead of 1.
Let's do the details through PM.

[Marc van Arc]

Bijn, could they be an asset to your subtropical tank? They originate from Argentina, so they should be able to cope with lower temperatures.
We are talking of

Auchenipterus nigripinnis

I'm planning a second subtropical tank, I think they would fit in this one perfectly.

I'm very positive about the possibility that these fish will end up in a better home than the one I can provide them with and - although a bit sad myself - am very pleased with this outcome for the Auchenipterus!

[kruseman]

That's good news indeed.
Enjoy them, Bijn.

[kruseman]

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A picture I took last night. Centromochlus concolor, Centromochlus perugiae (the spots are somehow fading; due to aging?), Corydoras axelrodi.

[Marc van Arc]

These concolor are really nice Arjan. It's a good thing they ended up at your place!

On a side note: anyone (relatively) nearby interested in a female Lio oncinus?

[wrasse]

You could always bring it with you on holiday to the UK marc. I'll give it a home

Richard

[Marc van Arc]

You could always bring it with you on holiday to the UK marc. I'll give it a home

Nice try, Richard, but I'm afraid that is not going to work -).
I have got the idea that the UK doesn't mind animals being taken out, but bringing them in is quite a different chapter. Or am I mistaken?

[MatsP]

If it's from within the EU, it's not a biggie. Richard needs to fill in the form on this page, and get it approved by DEFRA
http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/ac ... =RESOURCES

--
Mats

[The.Dark.One]

If you can bring them in I wouldn't mind some C. concolor and sp. Guyana!

[wrasse]

I think I'll give the form-filling a miss.
Marc, I would hate for you to be hauled in to some back room by UK customs because I had filled in the form incorrectly...

[Marc van Arc]

I think I'll give the form-filling a miss.
Marc, I would hate for you to be hauled in to some back room by UK customs because I had filled in the form incorrectly...

On behalf of my family: thanks a lot for not ruining their holiday