Identification needed

one-o-nine · Post by **one-o-nine** » 28 Jan 2011, 21:16

Can anyone tel me the name of this fish???
Currently about 12 centimeters long

: pic 1

: pic 2

Please help

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 28 Jan 2011, 21:20

Most likely a species. Click on the name (link) and see for yourself this is going to be difficult

one-o-nine · Post by **one-o-nine** » 28 Jan 2011, 21:24

I think it's a Hemiloricaria or a Riniloricaria, but I'd like to know which one.
I can't find it in the Cat-elog.
If it was easy to find, I wouldn't have posted it here.

Post by **Marc van Arc** » 28 Jan 2011, 21:35

one-o-nine wrote:I think it's a Hemiloricaria or a Riniloricaria, but I'd like to know which one. I can't find it in the Cat-elog.
If it was easy to find, I wouldn't have posted it here.

You seem to misunderstand what I was saying.
There are so many fishes like yours that it is going to be very difficult to determine it to the exact species level. What could be of help is if you know where it was imported from.

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 28 Jan 2011, 21:39

http://www.loricariinae.com/Bestimmungsschlssel.htm
You may be able to split Rineloricaria vs. Hemiloricaria on that...

Unfortunately, there is no key for identifying to species for Hemiloricaria or Rineloricaria.

Norman (who runs the Loricariinae site) may turn up here in the next day or two with some luck - I suspect you may need more photos, but I don't know.

--
Mats

one-o-nine · Post by **one-o-nine** » 28 Jan 2011, 22:04

I'll try to take some more pictures, but that might take some time...
Hopefully Norman can help out..
I'll take a look at his site tomorrow.

racoll · Post by **racoll** » 28 Jan 2011, 23:12

is the most common import (from Colombia).

Post by **Shane** » 29 Jan 2011, 07:37

Hemiloricaria eigenmanni is the most common import (from Colombia).

Based on the two photos above, that is the ID I would go with.
-Shane

macvsog23 · Post by **macvsog23** » 29 Jan 2011, 09:19

one-o-nine wrote:I think it's a Hemiloricaria or a Riniloricaria, but I'd like to know which one.
I can't find it in the Cat-elog.
If it was easy to find, I wouldn't have posted it here.

Naturally people only post if they are unsure of the ID of a fish. I would hate to think people post just to confuse or to brag.

JoePlec · Post by **JoePlec** » 29 Jan 2011, 11:33

pmsl ...

one-o-nine · Post by **one-o-nine** » 30 Jan 2011, 16:24

euhm,
What do you mean?
pmsl..????

(sorry if this might be a dumb question)

MatsP · Post by **MatsP** » 30 Jan 2011, 16:39

PMSL = "Pi**ing MySelf Laughing", a ruder form of ROFL or LOL.

--
Mats

Post by **Birger** » 30 Jan 2011, 16:40

one-o-nine wrote:euhm,
What do you mean?
pmsl..????

(sorry if this might be a dumb question)

It is a trivial post which has been dealt with by the Mods...pay no attention to it, the imformation you seek is before these last two posts and all reliable, if Norman shows up he also may have something to add.

Birger

Norman · Post by **Norman** » 31 Jan 2011, 06:29

Hi Mats,

I would go with Racoll and Shane. It seems to be H. eigenmanni.

MatsP wrote:Unfortunately, there is no key for identifying to species for Hemiloricaria or Rineloricaria.

Its in preparation!

so long
Norman

macvsog23 · Post by **macvsog23** » 31 Jan 2011, 06:48

Hi

Is any one aware of any differences between Hemiloricaria and Rineloricaria in care and diet?
Is it easy to spot differences with in the two genus’s?
Thanks and regards
Bob

Norman · Post by **Norman** » 31 Jan 2011, 07:11

Hi Bob,

Your questions are not very easy to answer.
I kept until today 4 species of Rineloricaria and arround 10 species of Hemiloricaria.
Generally Rineloricaria species can be kept with lower temperatures than Hemiloricaria species. This is caused by the distribution area of both genera. While Rineloricaria is spread in the parana riversystem, mostly Hemiloricaria come from the amazon riversystem.
Next to the lower temperatur in keeping of Rineloricaria I noticed that all the kept species of this genus where more aggressive than any Hemiloricaria species I kept. Often they bite each other in pectoral and ventral fins. An if they are equipollent the duration of this fight can be up to one hour.
Rodríguez and Reis determined for Rineloricaria two groups (rocky and sandy group). So, if you keep them, some species digg themselves partially in fine sand, other don't and like 'climbing' on stones, driftwood and others. This is equal to Hemiloricaria.

Rineloricaria feed primarily carnivore food. Some Hemiloricaria are omnivore.

so long
Norman

macvsog23 · Post by **macvsog23** » 31 Jan 2011, 07:57

Thanks
I am trying to grab as many facts on the "whiptails" as I can.
I have been spurred by the http://www.planetcatfish.com/loricaria_simillima.php spawning I have had.
I have noticed that very little "labelling" apart from a brief name or sudo scientific name is found on the sales lists for "whiptails"

one-o-nine · Post by **one-o-nine** » 04 Feb 2011, 20:10

Today I was able to take some more pictures.

: body

: tail

Can anyone confirm it's H. eigenmanni?

Norman · Post by **Norman** » 05 Feb 2011, 12:34

Yes, it is H. eigenmanni.

so long
Norman

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