Which Auchenipterids are being kept by PC members?

[kruseman]

... what can I do (what type of cave(?)

My C. perugiae like to stay in the crevices of wood during the day. I think that is why the Auchenipterids got the name "woodcatfish"

[Marc van Arc]

hopefully we will be able to get your populations back up

I made a decision/promise some days ago and I think for once I should live up to it. Thus I did not take the 6 C. perugiae I was offered at an LFS yesterday. It was a kind of new experience to me, but I think I did the right thing.
In all honesty, I may take them when the other fishes are divided over the 2 tanks and I'm sure everything remains alright. So if they're still there in about six weeks (I think so - they are from the batch I already picked some from (including a C. reticulata) about 2 years ago), I might "rescue" them.

I received two gravid females with my cent. perugiae's... what can I do (what type of cave(?)) should I supply

Like Kruseman said, wood with small crevices they just fit in and/or the smallest PVC pipes you can find. Obviously the wood would look much better imo, but that's a matter of taste.

Do you have small spot or large spot specimens? Looking forward to pictures.

[Marc van Arc]

How are they doing Arjan?

[kruseman]

They are doing just fine as far as I can see, Marc. Good to hear your fish swim in "calmer waters".

I feed them in the morning when it is still dark and during the evening: Black and white mosquitolarvae. Then they cruise through the water untill they bump into something edible. The female isn't swimming as well as the male ones: I looks like her swimblatter is not working that well. Other than that I believe they are quite healthy.

At both LFS's the Protazol was too old. Thats can be dangerous as I have read at a cichlidforum. So I havent bought the stuff yet.
They are going to be in quarantaine for a long time. Probably with Protazol in a week , just to be sure.

Atm I am very busy with emptying the main tank. I always get quite nervous doing that somehow.

BTW Looked the species up in Mees's (1974) desription of auchenipterids from Surinam: It probably is C. concolor indeed. But from Surinam? I always thought that country doesn't export that much. They might also originate from Colombia (Rio Ocoa)?

Nice fish! I asked a friend to make some decent pictures with a good camera.

[Marc van Arc]

I feed them in the morning when it is still dark and during the evening: Black and white mosquitolarvae. Then they cruise through the water untill they bump into something edible. The female isn't swimming as well as the male ones: I looks like her swimblatter is not working that well. Other than that I believe they are quite healthy.

That's a good thing. Maybe the female will improve; give it some time. I did not notice that btw: the reason I took the other female was that she was a little bigger than your girl.

BTW Looked the species up in Mees's (1974) desription of auchenipterids from Surinam: It probably is C. concolor indeed. But from Surinam? I always thought that country doesn't export that much. They might also originate from Colombia (Rio Ocoa)?

Despite the title, Mees did not only describe species from Surinam.
See: Introduction, page 4, second paragraph, for an explanation by the author.

[kruseman]

Despite the title, Mees did not only describe species from Surinam.
See: Introduction, page 4, second paragraph, for an explanation by the author.

True. But Mees uses a specimen from the Coppename rivier in Surinam to desribe the species.

[Marc van Arc]

Indeed. Good spot.
Perhaps this makes more sense:
http://www.fishbase.org/museum/Occurren ... s=concolor

[nvcichlids]

Do you have small spot or large spot specimens? Looking forward to pictures.

Small spots.. I was hoping for large spots (as that is what I had before) but these guys have tiny spots.

[Marc van Arc]

Then you have the genuine C. perugiae. Personally I have always thought the big spot specimens to be

Centromochlus altae

.

[kruseman]

some pictures I just made in the dark.

Centromochlus concolor

[kruseman]

some more. after some:


the female

[Marc van Arc]

They look gorgeous

Have you got no protective cover for the heater? That may prevent them from burning themselves; I'm a bit scared they may regard it as a "nice" resting place because they can squeeze themselves between the heater and the glass - despite all the wood.

[kruseman]

Thanks for pointing that out. .
I am on it

[Jools]

I think this one is good enough for the cat-elog (if it is rotated and cropped) - would you be willing to share?

Jools

[kruseman]

Sure.
Do you need the original picture?

[nvcichlids]

Mine seem to be settling in quite nicely, but I am hoping to move them into a 55 gallon in the next couple of weeks currently they are living in an 8 gallon holding tank/hospital tank until I can assure myself they are healthy and ready to go. After the 8 gallon, they get to move into a 15 gallon which is the intermediate housing/hospital tank (more of a get ready for the vast openness of your next tank type of tank.) Will work on shooting pictures again, but everything seems to be coming out blurry

[Marc van Arc]

Today I divided the Auchenipteridae of my medium tank into both medium and small tank, which implies that the former disaster tank now has some occupants again. To anyone interested, see My aquaria.

[sidguppy]

it's time for a picture update, Marc

show those Markiana's

[Marc van Arc]

show those Markiana's

I will, but in Speak easy. Although after yesterday they behave a bit like auchenipterids

[Junttis]

I've lost two more of the

Auchenipterus nigripinnis

. Not easy fish to keep in a community tank. They got infected with a some sort of fungus and i tought it might be better to end their suffering.

Something good happened too, i managed to place an order for a group of five

Trachelyopterichthys taeniatus

plus some other cats. They should be here in few weeks.

[Marc van Arc]

That's too bad! Over here they are doing fine despite illnesses, medications etc. Although I'm a bit reluctant to say so these days...

I'm sure you'll be pleased with T. taeniatus. Very nice & elegant auchenipterid. Over here (sorry...) I counted 2 specimens (a pair); number 3 is missing again. I hope it's in a piece of wood that I moved to the small tank. I had to move that piece because it's home to my Auchenipterinae spec guyana and it's quite impossible to get them out.

[Junttis]

Yep. It was sad to read what happened to your fishes.

I've been trying to get T. taeniatus for over three years. Let's hope now is the time.

First group i got in 2007 were DOA, and the second time i tried to get them, i received T. galeatus.

[The.Dark.One]

Just a little teaser for wht you will hopefully end up with:

http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/auche ... niatus.jpg
http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/auche ... iatus2.jpg

[Junttis]

Thanks for the teaser. Can't wait for them to arrive. I just bought a rack with six 270l tanks. Now i just have to wait for the first inhabitants.

[kruseman]

I went to my LFS today and bought 3 Centromochlus perugiae; 1 male and 2 female, in addition to the 1 C. perugiae that was left.
There are still 6 left in the shop.

[Marc van Arc]

Over here they are doing fine despite illnesses, medications etc. Although I'm a bit reluctant to say so these days...

And I should have kept my mouth shut! There's one A. nigripinnis male with a very swollen belly, a bit too swollen if you ask me.......

[Marc van Arc]

There are still 6 left in the shop.

Any idea of their gender Arjan?

[kruseman]

I specifically asked to check out the remaining ones by myself using a net to lift the ppiece of wood. There were males and females but I forgot the ratio sorry

They are / looked healthy and wellfed by the shopowner.



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[nvcichlids]

Marc, are his what you would call c. altae? I am finally getting better pictures of mine, but nothing I am proud enough to share.

[Marc van Arc]

Yes, although I'd rather call them Centromochlus cf. altae.