l200 new home

[lethalcustoms00]

anybody kept a green phantom with tanganican cichlids? my wc doesnt want to eat any prepared stuff or veggies, and the brichardi tank has plenty of algae in it

[Linus_Cello]

Green phantoms come from soft acidic waters. Tanganyikian chiclids come from hard more alkaline waters. I think it would not be best to mix them (but some other people may have experience with both). If you have rocks or other things in your chiclid tanks with lots of algae, I think putting the algae covered rock in to the green phantom tank to feed it would be ok. Can anyone think of a reason not to go with my recommendation? Could the type of algae thats in the chiclid tank not be healthy for the green phantom?

Another option would be to put rocks in bucket of water (preferably soft and acidic), put them outside to grow algae, and then put them in your green phantom tank.

[lethalcustoms00]

the phatom is in with my angels now. its a planted tank, medium lighing, ph 7.5, temp 78f. the tanganican tank i not planted, about the same lighting, ph 7.6, temp 78 also. Im worried that the pleco may get roughed up, even though it would be the biggest thing in the tank. Also, its a wc pleco, and im worried that moving it mightbe too stressfull. but if it hasnt shaped up in a few days im gonna have to move i so it doesnt starve

[MatsP]

Im worried that the pleco may get roughed up

That does indeed seem likely. Rift Lake cichlids are not known for their docile and laid back attitude, exactly - there are probably exceptions...

I'd take a few rocks out of the tang. tank, and see if those are cleared by the L200. (Having said that, you have a large number of other plecos in your signature - are they ALL in the same tank? You only list one tank in "My Aquaria"... If they are all in the same tank, then I can see problems getting the fish to feed properly. I think it's about right to keep 1-3 different species in one tank, as long as they are reasonably "food compatible" - more than that, and you get problems with gettting the right type/amount of food to the the right fish).

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Mats

[lethalcustoms00]

matt, no the plecs are spread through 5 tanks, i ned to update my aquaria profile. Im kindathinking the pleco may have internal parasites. I dont really want to move it but if i hve to i guess i will

[MatsP]

matt, no the plecs are spread through 5 tanks, i ned to update my aquaria profile. Im kindathinking the pleco may have internal parasites. I dont really want to move it but if i hve to i guess i will

So what else is in with the L200?

Parasites are pretty easy to cure. A flubendazole medication is a good starting point, but a mix of Praziquantel, Flubendazole and metronidazole is the most complete set of anti-parasite medication. I've used a Flubendazole medication called Wormer Plus, which seems to work OK for me, but I don't think this one is available in the US.

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Mats

[Suckermouth]

Yes, flubendazole is hard to find. Larry gets it from a specific guy:

http://www.inkmkr.com/Fish/ItemsForSale.html

[lethalcustoms00]

there is a calico bn, 2 oto's, 4 angels, 8 assorted corys and betta. I bought som parasite meds with metronidazole and praziquantel.

[Farid]

hi there,
i dont really like your fish mix...you rather get a nice group of one spezies...at least then you see the real behavour of your fish...i'd say. sorry for my straightness but this is what suits best for the fish...

farid

[lethalcustoms00]

[quote="Farid"]hi there,
i dont really like your fish mix

Ill be straight as well. You dont have to like my fish mix, that is why its My fihs mix. I didnt post to get opinions of how my tanks are set up, i did it to get help with something. I cant know everything about this hobby and i came to a place where i could ask for help from other people like me who may have had the same problems with better success than I.

[sampster5000]

Let him keep what he wants to keep. I do the same. If you really want it you will find a way to make it work. I keep frontosas with severums. Ive never seen this before but I love them both and have not had problems. Almost had them together in my 75 gallon for a year. They are both doing great!

[MatsP]

And suppose it doesn't matter if you are doing something stupid, because it's only going to affect the fish...

I'm sure Farid's comments were meant as gentle suggestion to consider what you keep with what. It is quite clear that if you keep the wrong combination of fish, the fish will suffer. This, I'm sure, is not what you want. We all understand (and probably learned this from our own mistakes) that it's easy to buy new fish, fit them with whatever else happens to be in the least unsuitable tank. And with cheap, farmed fish, I wouldn't have be too concerned. But we are talking about fairly expensive, live-caught fish. They deserve a good home.

I'm not perfect, and I think nearly everyone here has made the mistake of seeing a fish in a tank in the shop, thinking "I like that", and then ending up with some sort of disaster because the fish ended up with tank-mates that they didn't belong with.

Of course, it is a free world - no one has to listen to anyone else's advice. But Farid is, in my opinion, an experienced aquarist that has "been there, done that", and learned from it. If we can avoid making other people's mistakes, then that is of benefit, don't you think?

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Mats

[wrasse]

In Tank Talk, I'm really enjoying the photo-thread by Glenny. Superb pics of an assortment of plecos, together with South-East Asian fish and shrimps. All the fish look happy to me.

Although I prefer biotope set-ups, those photos show there are other ways that work. There was no need for Farid's blunt comment.

[Richard B]

There was no need for Farid's blunt comment.

I'm assuming Farid's comment came over as blunt as (i assume) English is not his primary language...

Each to their own & there is nothing wrong with trying to mix fish in unusual groups as long as the fishes well-being is the primary consideration.

I do follow Farid's view though.... i was once a "fish collecter" back in the day, so were many, many others, it is just, i think, we 'evolve' over our fishkeeping lives to specialise & go down the group/species/biotype tank route as we wish to see the complete range of behaviours a species can demonstrate, courtship, breeding, hierarcy, territorial display within a species group (intra-species aggression as opposed to inter-species aggression - if that's correct?)