please id

[panaquej]

hi. can you please help me id this catfish? got this from a lfs. thanks!

[Silurus]

This is a pimelodid hybrid.

Pseudoplatystoma

crossed with another pimelodid genus, perhaps.

[Silurus]

On second thought, this might be the TSN X niger hybrid discussed here.

[Birger]

Possibly one of these

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/ge ... nus_id=116


Edit: oops....HH is way ahead of me

[Richard B]

Pseudoplatystoma sp_hybrid(2)

You can see the body scutes on the pale body beneath the dorsal

[sidguppy]

it's a good idea to return this to the shop as fast as you can!

both parents are able to reach 4 feet.
the Pseudoplatystoma fasciatum already is a catfish of respectable size; the Oxydoras niger can and does reach twice the weight and girth of an adult TSN

if you doubt this, well, here's a picture of both parental species taken by yours truly:
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/im ... ge_id=3881
the little squirt on the left is a 3.5 foot TSN. the head of the niger is almost as large as my own.
the hose you see in the background is a 2" gardenpond hose, largest diameter available in the shop.

photo was taken at Verduijns.

given the fact that hybrids often grow faster and larger than both parental species -this is called hybrid vigor- you can easily end up with a 4-5 feet long catfish with the size of a baby bottlenose dolphin and the weight of a fully grown adult male German Shepherd dog......

not something you can keep in any normal sized home aquarium!

[panaquej]

it's currently 6 inches now. oh no. you think it would really grow that big? i was hoping this would fall under the dwarf doras species. tank mates right now include synodontis and an 8 inch african arowana. it feeds on small guppies but it also takes pellets and frozen blood worms.

[Martin S]

it's currently 6 inches now. oh no. you think it would really grow that big? i was hoping this would fall under the dwarf doras species. tank mates right now include synodontis and an 8 inch african arowana. it feeds on small guppies but it also takes pellets and frozen blood worms.

Sadly, yes. It is a very unusual looking fish, but as already stated, it will outgrow any home aquaria very quickly.
Unless you can provide a very large (and i mean large) pond to house it, you need to find it a suitable home now before it outgrows your existing setup.
Martin

[grokefish]

On second thought, this might be the TSN X niger hybrid discussed here

WTF?

Now I have seen what I never wanted to see.

Matt

[Richard B]

What's the weather/climate like in the Philippines? It might well survive in a garden pond of 20x10 feet if you have the space

[Martin S]

What's the weather/climate like in the Philippines?

Sorry, slightly off topic, but it's got to be warmer than the UK

[Richard B]

What's the weather/climate like in the Philippines?

Sorry, slightly off topic, but it's got to be warmer than the UK

Definately "slightly off topic" but it did make me chuckle!

[Richard B]

On second thought, this might be the TSN X niger hybrid discussed here

WTF?

Now I have seen what I never wanted to see.

Matt

Matt - apart from this "abomination" there are a couple of things you might not have seen somewhere in the forums (laziness prevents me from finding them)

RTC x pangasiid hybrid - pics & discussion
Pangasiid x clariid hybrid - revealled in discussion by Silurus
Another one i can't remember - pic & discussion - produced for consumptive purposes

Just a few Dr Frankensteins playing God........

[panaquej]

it's around 23 degrees on average and reaches about 19 at night. quite cold considering our normal weather is 32 degrees. i'll transfer this fish to a pond when it gets really big.