L-600 or L-114?

[wingate2581]

I just purchased this pleco and wondering if anyone can give an I.D. on it.

[DutchFry]

Pseudacanthicus leopardus L114, very nice fish!

[wingate2581]

Thanks for the input Dutchfry. I was wondering if you could tell me how to tell the difference between the L-114 and the L-600? I have two psuedacanthicus one that was sold as a L-114 and the one posted that was actually sold as a L-600. I dont really care if he isnt I didnt buy him because of the # that went along with him but because I thought he was beutiful. Here's an old pic of the one sold as L-114. Just hoping for some clarification.
The one sold as L-114 is only 3.5" and the first one posted is 11".

[Kampfer]

These words are not mine.I quote from one of the experience forumer in a local forum(in Singapore).
Hope this helps.
"The L number L600 was not given by Datz, the inventor of L number system. L600 is in fact a trade name (using L number) from Taiwan, and later on, adopted by Planet Catfish. The L number series is still at 400+.
The Taiwanese differentiated L600 from L114 by looking at the caudal or tail fin....if the spots or markings starts at the caudal peduncle and ends mid way into the tail fin, it is confirmed a L600. If the spots started at the edge of the tail fin and ending mid way into or not touching the caudal peduncle, then it is a L114. Another crucial id key was that a L600 would normally Not have a spotted head."

[DutchFry]

to be correct, it actually is

Pseudacanthicus cf_leopardus

(L114) as

Pseudacanthicus leopardus

is actually L600!

the head pattern is (for me) the most obvious difference between these species.

the little one is L114 too (imo)

[Cristoffer Forssander]

I just purchased this pl*co and wondering if anyone can give an I.D. on it.

Looks like a fine L114 male!

[wingate2581]

Thank you for everyone who replied. Now that I look at some of the L-600 pics I see the head pattern difference. I have tried to get a positive I.D elsewhere, and have not gotten any reasonable explanation of why they thought it was either one. It is refreshing to get some answers with explanations. Thanks again.

What was slightly confusing for me was looking at my 2, they looked to have a slightly different pattern. The smaller one has much bigger spots on it's belly compared to the bigger one and has more of a blotched pattern on his body. Is that juvenile markings? Can I expect almost the same pattern as the bigger one when it grows?

[Borbi]

Hi,

Is that juvenile markings?

Jupp, it is. At least within reasonable "error margins". Thus, as you suggest, it will at some point in time be more like your first one.

Just to complete: I would not consider the tail markings as a decicive difference between L 114 and P. leopardus.
Check this beautiful youngster:


If I got the explanation correct, then this would be P. leopardus. But, considering the head markings as well as colour (P. leopardus is greenish; gives ID immediately away once you have seen the real thing), it clearly is an exceptionally coloured juvenile (5-6cm) L 114.

Cheers, Sandor

[wingate2581]

Thank you for all the info and that is an amazing looking little one indeed!

[Badenser]

Hi,

there are only Pseudacanthicus leopardus and Pseudacanthicus spec. L 114.
As Kampfer said, L 600 is only a trade name for special coloured L 114 (to make more money) and should not used in a reliable way.

In our L-welse.com we had a very ineterssting thread with special Pics:
http://www.l-welse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16519&

and:
Pseudacanthicus spec. L 114= LDA 7= LDA 73 (look WelsAtlas 2 Page 1308)

Pseudacanthicus leopardus never had a L- number