Leucosticta wrote:well the problem is that iyaly has not big aquarium culture: the 99% of the tanks are guppies and discus and he only L known are Gibbiceps, ancistrus sp(3) and plecostomus.
I haven't been to Italy for several years now, and last time I was, I didn't care much about fish-shops.
Other are so seldom required that have incredible prices. I've seen just once a L183 adult but it was 40 € when people all around the world can have it for 1/10 of the price. It's not a problem of money, is just that is a pity that this wonderful family is so badly known.
Genuine
(L183) are fairly pricey here in the UK too - €40 = £31, and my feeling is that you wouldn't get much change out of that in any of my local shops (at least not at adult size), supposing they actually carried the fish in the first place. In the US,
www.exoticfinds.com has them listed at 2" (50 mm) for $25 - which makes about €16 - but that's far from fully grown ones. 3-4cm ones from Trimar are about the same price.
I haven't seen genuine L183 for a while - if ever, since the ones I saw most recently, which thought were (and were listed as) L183 turned out to be (most likely)
- you can tell the difference in the dorsal fin that should have 12 dorsal rays in L183, others have 8 rays.
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Mats