Which 1?

noddy · Post by **noddy** » 20 May 2003, 08:31

Hi everyone
Just a quick question. What would be the best algae eater for a 50gal with gold severums, blue acaras and nicaraguan cichlids. I was considering a common pl*co but i have fears that it will be to restrictive for one. Tank dimensions 48x14x18. Going to have a lot of driftwood and some plants.
Thanks for your time
Noddy

Kostas · Post by **Kostas** » 20 May 2003, 09:28

Hi,
I think that the common pleco is the best algae eater for cichlid tanks but because of its size you should not buy it unless you plan to buy a bigger tank(at least 180cm)in the near future.I think that Glyptoperichthis joselimaianus and Hypostomus margaritifer will also do but i dont think that they are as good as common pleco at eating algae.

Plec0maniac · Post by **Plec0maniac** » 20 May 2003, 12:41

I think that the best algae eater is either a common bristlenose or an panaque

Just make sure that u have enough hiding places, so they wont get bitten

Post by **Silurus** » 20 May 2003, 12:52

Panaques don't generally eat algae. They eat wood.

noddy · Post by **noddy** » 20 May 2003, 14:04

thanks for the replies. So everyone is in agreeance that i need a larger tank for a common pl*co? looks like i might have to get hold of some more bristles.. anyone know of any different bristles that are attactive. i have been considering 3-4 peppermint bristles for a while now. Any oher suggestions,
Thanks again
Noddy

mokmu · Post by **mokmu** » 22 May 2003, 15:10

That is true that Panaques generally eat wood. But, when there is no other food source, the Royal Panaque will feast on the algae willingly.

Apparently they have tried putting a small royal in a large algae-infested pond with some kois. Lo and behold, the Royal did dig into the algae and the fish grew almost 2x its size in a month and a half.

So, is it the large pond or the algae that made the Royal grow to great lengths?

Caol_ila · Post by **Caol_ila** » 22 May 2003, 15:34

@mokmu i think your assumption isnt worth much as there must be other food available in the pond and you cant just take away the other parameters. Imho leaving Panaques/Panaquolus/Hypostomus (Cochliodon) without wood isnt species-appropriate.

Plec0maniac · Post by **Plec0maniac** » 22 May 2003, 16:18

its true that these loricariids need wood as part of there diet, but as mokmu mentioned, the panaques did grow adn has no signs of prob... my plecs all have wood intested tanks, for diet and habitat purposes..

Are the panaques eventually will die when they have no wood? even though they are growing properly adn are in good condition???

Caol_ila · Post by **Caol_ila** » 22 May 2003, 17:19

Its not whether it dies or not but if it is provided with habitat like surroundings. These fish are mostly specialized on eating wood and only because he doesnt die it shouldnt be taken away. Would be like taking away a certain part of your diet and saying well hes not dying hes fine. And i doubt that this is a long term knowledge...fast growing doesnt mean healthy animals. For example overfed turtles suffer from kidney and liver fattening which might be the difference between a 100 year old turtle and a 50 year old one.

edit: imho we owe it to the animal. We rip it out of its habitat and stuff it into a tank/pond.

Post by **Silurus** » 22 May 2003, 17:22

Besides, the whole point of noddy's thread is to ask which pleco would be best as an algae eater. I just don't think panaques are best-suited for the job, since there are many better alternatives out there.

DeLBoD · Post by **DeLBoD** » 22 May 2003, 18:06

My common pl*co cleaned a 4 foot tank in 24 hours ,it was green all over .
And he is only 5 inches in length, they have to be the best all round algae eater.

Plec0maniac · Post by **Plec0maniac** » 23 May 2003, 12:06

olright

tnx for the info. first thing tom, ill put lots of wood in the pond.. tnx

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