My latest Aquisition

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My latest Aquisition

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well finally i managed to save up enough cash to lay my hands on one of these perfect lil fellas, absolutly rubbish photo while it was still in the bag aclimatising but there will be better ones to follow soon!.
Its a perfect specimin and is from the batch that were tank bred reported about on here before. now i just have to find the cash for the other 4 at the lfs.. :lol: :shock:

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Post by Richard B »

Very nice indeed - it looks a chunky little fellow & hopefully when settled the spots will be less evident.

Keep us posted with your progress

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I've got one of them been trying to find out the name sionce i've brought him about 8-9 months.

Looks a lovely fish, cant wait to see the updated pics.
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Here's mine that I got a couple of weeks ago. Took awhile to find him too
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Post by sidguppy »

hate to disappoint you but unlike the top fish this doesn't look much like a true granulosus, more like one of those hybrid critters......

as you can see even tiny granny's have the telltale black and white fins.
if they haven't got those, you got a hybrid.
if the LFS tells you that those fins 'develop' the colors when the fish grows he's ripping you off.
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Post by Richard B »

I agree entirely with Sid - stackersteve, your fish is definately a hybrid. I have been lucky enough to see the tank bred young & they are all miniature versions of adults with the white edges to the fins, unlike this one & unlike the one in the initial post - i'd have words with your LFS

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i unfortunatly agree with the others, that is definatly a hybrid, i have personally seen an adult version of a granulosus hybrid and whist they seem to be a "pretty" fish they are definatly not granulosus. As richard said, the true juviniles look identical to adults.
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Post by grahams »

Welcome to the ever growing group of tank bred Granny owners.I would have seen it first when he/she was little more than 3cm long, and it was cute then,it will just get more handsome as he/she grows.
My own fish,which was one of the first to be released by the breeder,is well settled in now, and the main body colour has darkened down to that of the older one I have.
It's good to see more of them getting into the hands of the enthusiasts.All we need now is for the prices to come down to a level where we can all get good big
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Well done and good luck with it.Money well spent I would say.

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what is the nme of this fish?
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Post by MatsP »

is the name of the first fish pictured. The second picture shows a hybrid which may have S. granulosus as one of it's parents, and some other Synodontis species as the other parent.

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whoops my bad, i should have mentioned the name of it for those who didn't know it by sight straight away, thankyou Mats :D
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Post by Marc van Arc »

Meanwhile we've lost track of Stackersteve. Steve, did you do anything with the above info and if so, what?
If you don't want to go into it, fair enough.
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I don't know what to say. I felt it as soon as I saw it. My friend went through the trouble to find it and I felt I had to buy it then.
The first thing I did was tell him he(pet shop) may have been taken. Then I came here to compare juv. pics to the fish. I'd have to say mine has more spotting than the pics. The fins do have the darker color on the leading edge and lighter whiter to the back. Thet was the selling point.
The ONLY relief I can find in this is I did not pay the price I did for the original one which was no doubt a wild caught 100% Granulosus.
This does not make me regret owning this fish and it will serve as an example and learning tool here on the forums. Hybrids and pure breeds
Thanks guys. I look forward to anything additional you have to add.
What is the possible cross to create this fish?
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Post by Richard B »

Stackersteve

One of the parents of your fish is undoubtedly a tanganyikan syno, possibly granulosus but the other is most likely a riverine species that produces eggs in vast quantities like nigrita. It'd be very difficult to know for sure without comparing with other specimens whose parentage is known exactly. As hybids go it's far nicer than most but not what you really wanted. It's happened to many so don't fret too much. Now true babies are appearing more regularly & through this forum hopefully we can educate the majority of prospective purchasers as to what they should be getting

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I'm trying to get a pic up off of my phone that shows a side shot of the fish. This shot I think people may see why I would not second guess what it was and just buy it.
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This is not a great shot. I took it and ran home to log into here and compare. The other pic is horrible because of floating the fish then putting it on a white background and taking a pic. I'm not disputing what it is just putting up a more accurate pic.
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Post by Richard B »

Stackersteve

The fish looks quite nice side on - i'd suggest that multipunctatus is somewhere in it's heritage - better than a lot of other hybrids though
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Post by WOGGIES »

How much do one of those cost? (i'm new)
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Woggies
The "fake" one is more than I care to admit. The pic I posted 3/4 was an import that cost 350, 7 years ago. Had it for about 5
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