what is this pleco, who can help me to identify?

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 14 Apr 2003, 15:40

please help me to confirm it real name, this fish is uses L186 import to Taiwan.

Thx!

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 14 Apr 2003, 17:17

Hi!
It is a Pseudacanthicus sp for sure!
But can't tell the species
cheers
Yann

Post by **Janne** » 14 Apr 2003, 19:29

To me it looks more like Acanthicus like this one http://planetcatfish.com/ilibrary/loric ... /217_f.htm

Janne

TKP · Post by **TKP** » 15 Apr 2003, 01:09

I got one at two month before, the boss say it is L320, but I'm sure it's not L320. This fish is very popular in japan,because we can found it in japan websites very easy.
http://eheim-uk.com/planetcatfish/galle ... ry/album75

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 15 Apr 2003, 08:15

Janne wrote:To me it looks more like Acanthicus like this one http://planetcatfish.com/ilibrary/loric ... /217_f.htm

Janne

Hi!

Well it could be but I find the body not being high enough to be one.
The head is pretty similar to the Acanthicus but the rest of the body is more typical of Pseudacanthicus...
Cheers
Yann

Achim · Post by **Achim** » 15 Apr 2003, 08:38

Hi,

Acanthicus species do not have an adipose fin. Though this species shows one, it is clearly a Pseudacanthicus species.

Greetings... Achim

TKP · Post by **TKP** » 15 Apr 2003, 17:50

http://www.amazon-exotic-import.de/Gall ... %20320.htm

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 16 Apr 2003, 03:35

Hi Janne, Sorry about my photo 1 & 2 to make you confused that it's Acanthicus hystrix,

I'm sure that it's not Acanthicus hystrix, the head of the Acanthicus hystrix is big and sharp, but this one is little bit wide and small.

http://planetcatfish.com/ilibrary/loric ... /217_f.htm

This pleco also not L320, I compared with the followed websites, I'm sure the fish in my photo isn't L320 too.

http://www.l-welse.com/db/index.php?lan ... =02&id=325

There had two of this unknown pleco in the shop, one of it already sold, I'll post some new photo later, I hope someone can tell me what it is.

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 16 Apr 2003, 13:24

*20cm

Achim · Post by **Achim** » 16 Apr 2003, 14:15

Hi,

the fish reminds me on a dark colour variant of Pseudacanthicus spinosus which was imported with about 50 normal coloured Pseudacanthicus spinosus to Germany around 1994. When stressed the fish brightened up even nearly to the normal colouration of P. spinosus. However, when it died it maintained the dark colouration when preserved. Unfortunatly i lost the preserved fish when i moved to another house. Although i didn't take any countings to compare with P. spinosus, im pretty sure it was merely a colour variant. Here is a (not very good...) picture.

Greetings... Achim

Post by **Janne** » 16 Apr 2003, 21:02

I agree with Achim, this looks like the Pseudacanthicus spinosus even if this species is very dark in colour but I have seen both of these colourforms at a wholesaler here in sweden, they was around 5-6" (13-15 cm) and I dont know if they will be lighter in colour when they get bigger.

Janne

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 17 Apr 2003, 03:01

Sorry , I did not understand.

You determined that is "Pseudacanthicus spinosus"?

In mine fourth forehead picture, determined its forehead position is does not have the spot shape.

http://www14.brinkster.com/lorditar/piikki.htm

http://www.aquajapan.com/encyc/catfish/ ... nosus.html

http://www.planetcatfish.com/ilibrary/l ... a/85_f.htm

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepage ... _art4.html

http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~sto/plecophotogr ... hicus.html

Post by **Janne** » 17 Apr 2003, 20:14

I'm not sure about spinosus but I have 5 leopardus and one of them dont have spots on the forehead so maybe not all speciemen's in the Pseudacanthicus family look exactly the same. I mean in the same species they can look different.
I'm not 100% sure of your fish but I dont think I can help you any further, try to take a new photo a little closer and with the flash on so it will looks more brighter.

Janne

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 18 Apr 2003, 00:41

HI,Subject

I still very much thank the help which you does.

clothahump · Post by **clothahump** » 18 Apr 2003, 00:49

Pardon me for being stupid here but the fish pictured look like two different species to me.

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 18 Apr 2003, 01:24

(1)When yesterday I saw L320 is extremely similar.

But or had 1. difference, is on my picture fish, on the main body body is does not have the spot, when L320 just imported, observed on the main body body to have the black spot.

(2)I once heard some friends to tell me, in "Aqualog" book L186 is corrected into L185, this was real?

(3)Some people may help to reply my this content?

To that matter, I from before wants to know and not to understand.

http://forum.planetcatfish.com/viewtopic.php?t=1551

TKP · Post by **TKP** » 18 Apr 2003, 06:48

http://keruzou.hp.infoseek.co.jp/pineapple/matsu2.html

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 19 Apr 2003, 09:18

Thanks tkp, I knew his name.

"Pseudacanthicus sp."