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Breeding/Info Hasar Sp.

Posted: 31 Dec 2004, 05:13
by Waldo
Want to know everything and anything about them. any sp would be awesome.
heres a pic.
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Posted: 31 Dec 2004, 11:43
by racoll
i bought a Hassar notospilus about a month ago. i'm ashamed to admit, i did buy him as a bit of an impulse. although i had been after a little doradid for a while, i was expecting something a bit like an Opsodoras, Platydoras or Agamyxis which i have kept before.

the hassars are completely different in character to these fish. they are diurnal (active during the day), shoaling, and do not stop moving ever! they enjoy a lot of current.

he was a bad choice for my tank, which is packed with bogwood with very little swimming space. he often gets harrased by the plecos which find his constant swimming irritating.

all is not lost. he will be moving soon to my fathers tank which is set up more to his favour.

my advice: lots of current, lots of swimming space, buy a large shoal.

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Posted: 01 Jan 2005, 04:03
by Waldo
the on posted on PC "cat" say's it's only going to get like 4" well some are quite well over that... whats your experience?

Posted: 01 Jan 2005, 21:31
by racoll
i don't know what species you have in the photo there. get some better shots and stick it into the "what is my catfish section". i'm sure someone will know what they are.

Posted: 03 Jan 2005, 09:00
by ErickJones
Check the COTM section they have a very nice rightup on Hassar Notospilus.

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Posted: 03 Jan 2005, 10:27
by Jools
Waldo wrote:the on posted on PC "cat" say's it's only going to get like 4" well some are quite well over that... whats your experience?
The species I have (and that I wrote the cotm article on) have not passed 4" SL despite being kept in large aquariums. I have had them since mid 2000. It is always worth while having a good look a shipments of these fish as they often have several species and indeed genera mixed together.

Care is like a halfway house between a "regular" doradid (like Platydoras) and Brochis. They are certainly social, shoaling fish and will become active and visible during the day given low lighting (floating plants), the company of their own kind and plenty of refuge.

An excellent catfish.

Jools

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Posted: 03 Jan 2005, 17:55
by Waldo
I'm going to the store and i'll be takeing some better pictures of the fish to clarify. on my ordering list i have to hasar sp to pick from... only saw one on CAT but liked it so i ordered it. also ordered something called banjo dormilion which turned out to be a Chaca Chaca cat..... :x damn. gotta pawn those off on someone with a big tank that has catfish to feed it. oh well. will be back with pics tonight.... don't forget this post please gotta find out exactly what they are.

Posted: 04 Jan 2005, 13:22
by ErickJones
Chaca Chaca's are from asia. those were banjo cats you recieved unless your importer is transhipping from India.

Posted: 04 Jan 2005, 13:26
by Silurus
Waldo,

I saw the pics of the "banjo dormilion" you put up on Aquabid and those are .

Posted: 04 Jan 2005, 17:07
by Waldo
Thank god.... i thought they were chaca's.... so would i be right in saying they have reached there max potential grow size of 5"?

Posted: 04 Jan 2005, 17:36
by Silurus
That would be about right. They are not easy fish to keep, though.

Posted: 04 Jan 2005, 19:04
by sidguppy
unless you have a huge Ancistrus hatchery.....I seem to have heard that they're specialized eggrobbers that live off the eggs of Loricariids......

pics pics pics pics and more pics.

Posted: 05 Jan 2005, 06:41
by Waldo
ok i know they are big i'm sorry but bear with me.
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Posted: 05 Jan 2005, 11:11
by sidguppy
MAN, you lucky BUM!

If fish like that showed up in Europe (not even in Germany anymore :evil: :cry: ), I'd buy them right away.....

We checked the importers- and exporterslist and
every interesting non-L, non-Cory catfish goes to the US or Japan!!!!

safe for Tanganyikans.

very very very frustrating.....

Posted: 05 Jan 2005, 13:35
by Marc van Arc
And so it is. Happy for you though, having such beautiful cats. Enjoy them.
Luckily we still have the pics....

Posted: 06 Jan 2005, 06:33
by Waldo
why don't you guys pool together and import them... to be quite honest it's not because these fish aren't offered to you guys... it's cuz you guys don't order them. especially austria... for some reason they small fish that we get at petchains..... any clue on what these bums are?

Posted: 06 Jan 2005, 06:53
by Birger
Sid, wasn't it one of you guys just got some granny's,and you have some other tangies I/we dream of finding!!! Unfortunately it goes both ways. :)

Posted: 06 Jan 2005, 11:50
by Marc van Arc
Hi Waldo,
I can't make out for the Austrians, but I can tell you what happens here in The Netherlands: If it's weird-looking, too expensive (which it is anyway for most Dutch -)).), doesn't fit in well planted fishtanks and it may grow too large or eat too much, it's not worth importing the species.
What we can obtain here is the ever circling blend of Angels, Guppies, Barbs and other common, Singapore-bred fishes.
The point is we used to have a friend who did import them in the eighties, so we are hugely spoiled. However, he had to finish his business because no-one wanted his oddballs.
You don't have to feel sorry for us. But sometimes we think we shouldn't have taken those 80's days for granted.
Again, I am truly happy that others can still obtain fish like yours.
Best regards,
Marc (and Sid as well, I suppose)

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Posted: 06 Jan 2005, 18:41
by Waldo
:( sorry to hear that. does aquazoo ever bring kewl ifhs to people?

Posted: 06 Jan 2005, 21:15
by Marc van Arc
I'm sorry, I don't understand your question?

Posted: 07 Jan 2005, 00:39
by Waldo
sorry i was wondering if anyone brought back fish from aquazoo in ...germany i think it is... hey it's europe you all get along right?

Posted: 07 Jan 2005, 11:05
by Marc van Arc
Yes we do, I suppose. Everybody happy, one currency (most countries), no borders....
If you mean Zajac Duesburg, we didn't take any fish with us.
The catfishes weren't very abundant there, nor the characins. We had to go to Blecha (near Dortmund) to buy some fish(I posted a query on that Auchenipterid, but it's hard to answer because I didnt add a pic). Nice place to roam around though. Very cheap on accessoires. And huge!
It has 250 metres of aquariums stretched, with 3 tanks on top of each other.
But again, it was a little sad to see that a shop this big didn't have many cats in stock, while this should be the time to get loads of fish from South-America.

Posted: 07 Jan 2005, 17:49
by sidguppy
actually we DID bring fish from ZooZajac; unfortunately they didn't last long. about 24 hours for the male; female's still kicking but an itch-magnet.... :evil:

I should have bought that WildCaught male Burundi-petricola for 32E; expensive, but it would be alive and kicking.

next time I'm mesmerized by mouthbrooding softwater Betta-species, please kick me :roll:

Posted: 07 Jan 2005, 23:00
by Waldo
next time I'm mesmerized by mouthbrooding softwater Betta-species, please kick me
I love that... it's funny. one day i'll make aquazoo and bring you some cats and kewl fish. does a stupid 22 yo american need to trade his guppies for euro and vodka... or is that russia? anyway I'm trying to get the word from an airlines on how much it is to ship to the dark side.... or Great Britton or whatever your calling it now.

*this message was not made to offend anyone just a cheap shot at places with more common sense then the states could aquire.[/quote]

Posted: 08 Jan 2005, 16:05
by racoll
we get plenty of good catfish in here in great britain i think. you just have to be patient and visit the stores often.

waldo, i think you may have to post your hassar pics in the "what is my catfish" section to get an id. i don't think they are H.notospilus. There are quite a few hassars. silurus might know what they are?