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Pseudacanthicus leopardus vs L-114

Posted: 13 Aug 2004, 00:15
by mallemalle
it seems to me that some of this fishes have clearly "orange" eyes and others seems to have more dark eyes, someone know if this difference is that one of them are the described P.leopardus and the otherone is L-114 (P. cf. leopardus)?

mallemalle

Posted: 13 Aug 2004, 07:11
by Caol_ila
Hi!

The difference is that the L114 comes from the Rio Xingu, Brasil while the P.leopardus comes from Guyana.

Posted: 13 Aug 2004, 08:37
by mallemalle
i know that one is from Guyana (Rupununi river?) and the other is from brazil (Rio negro?)
but i was wondering if the eye color was one way to see the difference.

mallemalle

Posted: 13 Aug 2004, 09:31
by jamos
One of these is also commonly known as the L600

Check out this link to the pic on page to see the difference

http://www.plecofanatics.com/forum/inde ... 2492&st=15[/url]

jamos

Posted: 13 Aug 2004, 10:43
by mallemalle
well i can see the differense in the eyes but i would like to know the differense if there is one.

mallemalle

Posted: 13 Aug 2004, 11:19
by Yann
Hi!

A while back Ingo Seidel wrote an article about the differences between the 2...
It was in DATZ, ~2001-2002...
I ll check if I can find it at home...

Cheers
Yann

Posted: 14 Aug 2004, 18:52
by mallemalle
sounds great Yann!
thanks

Mallemalle

Posted: 15 Aug 2004, 02:16
by Caol_ila
Hi!

I forgot to add that its highly unlikely that any fish you see is from Rupununi...i havent seen any fish from there in Germany or even heard that someone owns one that was in a regular import.

Posted: 15 Aug 2004, 04:15
by Hermit
Hi

It appears that another differentiating factor between the two would be based on the black spotted blotches found in the caudal fins.

In the case of P. leopardus the spots extend backwards from the caudal penucle towards the base of the caudal fins. Whereas for the L114 such spots actually extend from the base of the caudal fins towards the body.

Regards,

Hermit.

Posted: 15 Aug 2004, 07:32
by Yann
Hi!

Chris!

It isn't really known but a fish export buisness has taken place from Guyana... of course they haven't the volume that any exportors in Brazil has but it is starting gently...

Malle: haven't found the paper yet... hopefully I ll be able to give you a scan tomorrow...

Cheers
Yann

Posted: 20 Aug 2004, 23:05
by PauloSR
P. leopardus came from Guyana
and
L-114 came from Rio Negro in Brasil...

Posted: 21 Aug 2004, 03:19
by mallemalle
and still the fish didnt tell me! i know some spanish but no portoguese, that might be the problem

how to tell them apart, thats the question, im sorry if i didnt make that clear.
Yann got me the article, now i just have to translate it, no big problem.

thanks for your help everybody, and special thanks to Yann for the article.

Mallemalle