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gold nugget dying without any known reason

Posted: 13 Feb 2003, 09:12
by caril
looking listness at the bottom, not even moving when i touched it.
it is breathing though, but i doubt it wil make it through.
waiting for miracle to happen.
nothing wrong with the other occupants. no sign of dieseases.

Posted: 13 Feb 2003, 14:30
by Atlas
Hi,
I would suggest you moving it to a quarantine tank using as 50% water from the old tank so as not to stress it further.

Check water parameters like ph, nitrte and ammonia level etc of main tank.

No sign of disease is usually an indication of an internal problem.
Medicate with internal parasite medication if necessary.
Keep us posted of the progress.
Cheers

Posted: 13 Feb 2003, 16:59
by caril
i realised the problem now!!! :x
there is a high content of ammonia in the tank and the ph is abt 5 after taking the tests.
but i change 20-30% of water every 3 days. how did the ammonia level get so high??? :roll:

Posted: 13 Feb 2003, 23:14
by Jools
Have you tested your water source?

Jools

Posted: 14 Feb 2003, 01:17
by S. Allen
also, check the filter, if it conked out, that would explain it.

if your water source isn't showing any ammonia, repeat the test... be sure to wash the tube really well beforehand. I've had a few different tests really fouled up by the test tube having a small amount of the testing chemicals from the previous test in there.

Posted: 14 Feb 2003, 03:43
by polkadot
Hi Caril, did you do anything to the filter recently? eg, wash everything inside the filter? The ammonia buildup will cause pH to drop. And with the peats and blackwater, its going to be even lower.

Posted: 14 Feb 2003, 14:16
by caril
bad news...
the tail of the pleco is starting to rot away though its still breathing.
what to do.
the ammonia and ph level is normal now.
what can i do to help now???

Posted: 14 Feb 2003, 17:22
by Barbie
Caril have you tested for nitrite? That's going to be the second stage for that tank, if something has interfered with the biobed at some point. The nitrite levels will be even harder on the fish than the ammonia was. Do you have another existing tank? Or just the one? Are you still doing daily water changes?

Barbie

Posted: 15 Feb 2003, 19:35
by caril
i dun have a test kit for nitrite.
going to do daily water change...
any suggestions???

Posted: 15 Feb 2003, 20:41
by noki
Caril... how long has your Gold Nugget been established in the tank, did it have a heathy period, or is it new? sometimes the imports seem in pretty bad shape to me when they get to the dealers tanks




well, on the subject of Gold nugget type health (big spot, little spot, Vampire, Goldie sunshine)... for all you pros...
i've noticed that sometimes they "pale out", when stressed (being moved, tank being rearranged), often other times also... how much is this a sympton of stress and ill health, and how much of it is just "mood"?

Posted: 15 Feb 2003, 21:34
by Nermal
There is a medication called "melflix" or something to that effect I have read about on the various boards used to treat damaged fins. You probably need this. With the amonia level stable (gone) the gold nugget will likely recover, but the nitrogen cycle is still out of kilter in the main tank. I'd keep the pleco in quarantine until the tail is healing visually. The tail will grow back.

I don't know what kind of filter you have but I have a strong preference to use a UGF (with powerhead) in congunction with any other filter system. The UGF in my tank is the sole source of Ammonia control and prevention of stagnant water anywhere in my tank.

Read this article. I refer to it as "Why UGF filters?" http://petsforum.com/cis-fishnet/afm/G29063.htm

Posted: 16 Feb 2003, 05:09
by caril
bought medication for fin rot.. hope that its effective. :roll:

Posted: 16 Feb 2003, 05:30
by Nermal
Good, let us know what it is called and what the ingredients are in it.

how's the GN doing and are the water parameters fixed?

Posted: 16 Feb 2003, 06:07
by caril
the fin rot is bad, but he's breathing fine.
have not notice it feeding yet... :roll:

Posted: 17 Feb 2003, 10:21
by caril
it died yesterday. :cry:
good in a sense that its suffering has ended.

Posted: 17 Feb 2003, 10:24
by polkadot
Lesson learnt????? :?: :?: