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otocinclus help

Posted: 23 Jun 2004, 22:56
by patrickstockton
i bought a couple of each of what my LFS calls otocinlus niger, and otocinclus arnoldi (regular oto, it said). are these correct names. She thought that maybe the niger had a new classification taking it out of the otocinclus family but the name "oto" just stuck. any clues on my fish?

Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 03:02
by Silurus
Otocinclus niger is the trade name for Hisonotus leucofrenatus.

Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 04:03
by patrickstockton
thanks. what about the arnoldi?

Posted: 24 Jun 2004, 04:27
by Silurus
Otocinclus arnoldi is actually a junior synonym of O. flexilis (which is not your regular oto), but the name is often misapplied to any one of the striped Otocinclus species (usually O. vittatus).

Posted: 06 Jul 2004, 22:20
by patrickstockton
thanks alot silurus! are these two not in the cat-e-log? by the two i mean, hisontus leucofrenatus and otocinclus flexilis... and to expose my ignorance.... what is a "junior synonym" of a species? I'll try to snap some pics today. thanks.

Posted: 06 Jul 2004, 23:15
by Silurus
The two are not in the Cat-eLog because Jools either has no picture of them (maybe you'd like to contribute?), or has the pics but has not had the time to put them up.

For a definition of a junior synonym, read this.

Posted: 07 Jul 2004, 06:17
by Barbie
Oops, I have O. flexillis, so I'll try to get some pics for him. I shot a few terrible ones when I first brought them home, but they seem to be a bit reflective and in the bright light of my planted tank they had quite a bit of glare. I'll put it on my list of things to remember :)

Barbie

Posted: 08 Jul 2004, 01:33
by patrickstockton
i'd be more than happy to contribute. what's the best method of getting them to the correct person. i took some ok pics of both yesterday and will get good ones tonight with better camera.

Posted: 08 Jul 2004, 01:57
by Silurus
Just email them to Jools. But remember, he has plenty of pics of the striped otos (which are not easy to identify accurately from photographs anyway). The Hisonotus will be a more valuable contribution, I feel.