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South american giants
Posted: 10 Feb 2003, 21:23
by david
Hi again guys can anybody tell me how big BRACHYPLATYSTOMA and MERODONTAS get and what they feed on and are they suitable for home aquarims please and thanks.
Posted: 10 Feb 2003, 21:34
by Silurus
Maximum sizes of <i>Brachyplatystoma</i> species:
<i>B. filamentosum</i>: 2.8 m
<i>B. flavicans</i>: 1.9 m
<i>B. juruense</i>: 60 cm
<i>B. vaillantii</i>: 1.5 m
<i>Merodontotus tigrinus</i> grows to 60 cm
You will need a very large tank to house any one of these guys.
Posted: 12 Feb 2003, 07:25
by Mika
I´ve seen some information of B. platystoma growing to nearly 2 m long is that incorrect.
Posted: 12 Feb 2003, 09:21
by PeacockBass
Mika wrote:I´ve seen some information of B. platystoma growing to nearly 2 m long is that incorrect.
Brachyplatystoma platystoma?? or Pseudoplatystoma?
Posted: 12 Feb 2003, 09:32
by Mika
Sorry- i mean Brachyplatystoma juruense.
Posted: 12 Feb 2003, 11:32
by Silurus
The most reliable sources maxes it out at 60 cm. Anyone here kept one that's larger?
Posted: 13 Feb 2003, 00:01
by TiGrInUs
B. Juruense do not get 2meters...they MAX out at 3ft. More likely 30" though.
Posted: 19 Feb 2003, 03:03
by wayneminot
>>>>B. filamentosum: 2.8 m wow thats huge!!
Posted: 19 Feb 2003, 20:05
by STINGRAY
You will find it very tricky to get these cats at the moment. We acquired several which unfortunately perished very quickly, and speaking to several people in the trade they are becomming more and more difficult to import. I would not buy these fish if you can't keep in a pond or very lge tank.Brachy's I have seen at 2ft and Tigrinus at 3ft.
Posted: 20 Feb 2003, 12:17
by PeacockBass
STINGRAY wrote: I would not buy these fish if you can't keep in a pond or very lge tank..
yup... totaly..
i have yet to see a pic of a B. juruense over 2 feet... and a tigrinus over 2 feet.. please.. if you have some pics please share!
Posted: 20 Feb 2003, 12:20
by Silurus
i have yet to see a pic of a B. juruense over 2 feet... and a tigrinus over 2 feet.. please.. if you have some pics please share!
You'll never see one, I'm afraid, as they'll not get any larger than that, even in the wild.
Posted: 22 Feb 2003, 17:01
by Jools
OK, some visual proof...
Brachyplatystoma - Dorada
Pseudoplatystoma - TSN
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Posted: 22 Feb 2003, 19:47
by coelacanth
The upper fish is actually a Piraiba (B. filamentosum) , as opposed to a Dourada (B. flavicans), according to Goulding.
Posted: 23 Feb 2003, 09:49
by Jools
As a friend pointed out elsewhere, if the same fish came from Colombia it would be a valenton or plumita not a Dourada (Dorado). I do seem to remember it being written as Dorado when I ordered it with pasta in Iquitos. Hard to tell what that was from chuncks of (very tasty) fish meat. Common names eh?
Jools
Posted: 23 Feb 2003, 10:18
by coelacanth
I think Dorado is also sometimes applied to a large Characin, Salminus, just to confuse the issue.
Posted: 23 Feb 2003, 21:44
by TiGrInUs
Flavicans- Dourada (brazilian name), Zungaro Dorado (Peru)
Salminus Maximus(the characin)- Dorado, Golden Dorado
I think this right
....confusing names
Posted: 23 Feb 2003, 23:26
by Shane
Just to show that common names are useless in all languages.
Venezuela
Brachyplatystoma rousseauxi = dorado
B. vaillanti = laulao
B. juruense = cunaguaro or bagre manta
B. filamentosum = valenton or atero
Pseudoplatystoma fasciatum = pintadillo (Colombia) tumame (Venezuela)
P. tigrinum = cabezona
all Pseudoplatystoma are called rayado as there are the two spp. above and several undescribed spp. that are all lumped together by most folks.
Characins
Salminus affinis = dorada or sauta
Posted: 24 Feb 2003, 18:54
by Rex Karr
And also a saltwater game fish.