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Help!

Posted: 16 Apr 2004, 19:26
by blazespecv
I recently noticed my hap electra holding, and I immediately stripped her because there are 4F/2M syno. multipunctatus in the tank, and I didn't want her to lose from stress from her mate beating on her. I have the eggs in a DIY tumbler, and they do indeed appear to be syno eggs, showing significant development after only about 2 days(heavy color, egg growing in size, etc.). Although being thoroughly tumbled, half the eggs developed fungus, and I am left with only about 20 eggs now. I have removed the fungused eggs, obviously, but was curious what should I do to prevent this from happening in the future? The fungused eggs were also fertilized, because many of the eggs were developing, even when the fungus was covering the egg, upon popping one, what appeared to be a developing syno popped with the egg. And lastly, if anyone has any really good DIY tumblers that don't require special ordering parts, just parts that are easily obtainable, links would be greatly appreciated. Since it appears I should have frequent spawns now, trying to learn to do it right from everyone who has been doing this for years, heh. :) Any particular special things regarding fry care aside from the articles on this site? thanks.

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Posted: 17 Apr 2004, 02:27
by blazespecv
Really need help now, now a trewevasse holding, presumably syno eggs, going to let this one play out for 3-4 days until they hatch, but would like advice still so I can strip early and get better hatch rates/less predation.

Posted: 17 Apr 2004, 04:47
by Barbie
I was hoping someone that had spawned S. multis would chime in, but I can at least give you a picture of the egg tumbler I made from pieces of hydro sponge filters and uplift tube. You can see it Here. The eggs rest on a piece of nylon hose, to allow water to pass through without restriction. You just want the eggs to slightly vibrate, not really bounce around, which you can adjust to some extent by how deep in the water you have the tumbler. Hope that helps.

Barbie

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Posted: 17 Apr 2004, 06:41
by blazespecv
Thanks for you help barbie, always appreciated. Anyone else want to help, feel free to :)
Stripped the Trewavassae, and to my surprise fry came falling out. As far as I had known, she had only been holding a day, at least thats the period where she was visibly showing. The fry appear to be all trewavassae, in which case that would be very very strange... Anyone want to post pics of very young multis? Clear pics, so I can get ID easily. You would think I could tell the difference from a cichlid to a syno, but they are still extremely small, and I have never bred synos before, so, I suppose I am synostupid. As for the other eggs, still developing, none hatched yet.

Posted: 17 Apr 2004, 18:36
by Birger
I suggest take the time to go through the african forum,there is a lot of the info you want there and more,the suggested tumbler works great and you can keep a number of them on a simple rack with an airflow control for each one,I have also used a small submersible pump to pump water through a modified gravel vacuum( just what I had handy at the time) with a flow control in the line,this gives you lots of room for the eggs but can be rather bulky and awkward and is one more electrical item to plug in,I usually find simple is best.