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bekateen wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019, 22:48 Congrats on another spawn. My

Hypancistrus debilittera

have spawned before and I released the young into the tank at about 1/2" SL safely. That said, I've let L201 fry loose with parents at only a week or two old. They were tiny, barely having finished their yolk and starting to feed on regular foods. They also seemed to do okay. I may have lost some, but not a lot.

I think you'll be okay, especially if you can provide food just for the babies (or excess of regular foods).

Good luck, Eric

TwoTankAmin wrote: ↑05 Dec 2019, 13:53 This does not apply to situations where "bad" dads are the problem and are either eating or booting viable eggs. The ove pleco I have worked with that did this were my P. compta.

My experience with Hypancistrus has been that the fry do best when they can be left in the breeder tank,I discovered this when I was lucky enough to acquire a proven breeding colony of zebras. I hit the jackpot and the 13 adults gave me close to 100 fry between mid-April and December. I had to begin to spread out the fry as it was insane be risking all my zebras being wiped out because of an issue in one tank. I also had an issue with the plumbing in the tank and ended up (before it was fixed) removing 10-12 tiny fry from a H.O.T. Magnum fry at its weekly cleaning. These fry were put into a growout tank. I also began pulling caves with dads on eggs/wiggler as well. However, I never remove all the fry from the breeder tank and this allowed me to see and compare the differing growth rates of the fry in each tank.

When I determined the kids in the breeder tank grew faster than those in the growout tank, I post abut this. I was surprised when some of the experts who had been helping me replied they had observed the same thing. They also noticed another phenomena I had observed. The alpha male in the tank was not the biggest fish but the second biggest fish.

My feeding solution for fry in breeder tanks is simple, I feed different sized foods. I first add BBS or cyclops to the tank and that finds its way to the fry. I follow that with the adult foods- brine, mysis, bloods, tubifex, etc. I also feed a lot of Repashy. Fry can eat this as well as adults. Finally, when pressed for time I will feed commercial sinking sticks which can also be consumed easily by fry as well as adults. It is essential that fry get fed regularly. If I am pressed for time and cannot feed all tanks, the fry always get food every day early on.

Finally, what works for me is just that. There is no guarantee my methods will work as well, or may not even work at all, for others. I know other folks who do pull eggs and later on return the fry to the breeder tank as discussed above. In the end, we all have to find the way that works best for our specific set-ups.

bekateen wrote: ↑05 Dec 2019, 15:15 I feed fry 3x per day when possible, and remove uneaten food with a turkey baster.

Cheers, Eric

bekateen wrote: ↑05 Dec 2019, 22:46 To clarify, when I say I overfeed fry 3x per day, I mean specifically that I do this while the fry are in the fry basket. Food does not escape into the tank and things such as freeze-dried worms, shredded veggies and algae or earthworm flakes can easily be suctioned out. When fry are loose in the adult tank, I figure the fry are taking the scraps left over by the adults and I don't particularly feed more than normal (normal being if the fry were not present).



Cheers, Eric

TwoTankAmin wrote: ↑05 Dec 2019, 19:20 For plecos its once a day. I rarely have issues with leftover food. The Repashy and the sinking sticks can last a while in the tank. The frozen not so much. When I had angel fry that was different, they got fed 3 times a day on live for the first 10 days. Then they were weaned onto cyclops.

I do not power feed my fish. I doubt that pleco fry in the wild are able to find as much good food every day compared to what they get in our tanks.

I recently went though a hospital stay, surgery and am still in recovery. From Sept 12 until the end of Oct the fish were poorly fed by my brother. They only got commercial sinking sticks and tanks without fry or smaller off spring got fed, at best, once a day. When I could take over, there were days I did not feed at all. I have just completed a head count of the fish in two such tanks and there were almost no losses at all. Maybe 4 or 5 fry out of about 95, with the smallest having been under 1/2 inch TL when they went into the tanks in August.

As always, this is how I do things and its neither the only way nor even the best way. But it has worked for the limited species with which I have worked.

p.s. During the above time, water changes got done only once every 3 weeks instead of weekly. I am still not quite back to weekly, but am close. More amazing is that some of the fish continued to spawn over the past 3 months.