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Bristlenose breeding
Posted: 06 Jan 2004, 22:39
by Kotty
Ive read the articles re bristlenose breeding on the site and was convinced my bristlenose was caring for eggs. Hes full size and has taken residence in a slate cave. We didnt see him for about a week of feeds when normally hes quite aggressive for the food. I peeked in the cave and saw all fins wagging looking like he was keeping up airflow. He would pop out for a bit of food after a week then go quickly back in. Anyway left it few days no sign of babies. Finally got impatient and took the slate roof of the cave off and .... nothing there
My q is do they fan their fins normally when sitting in a cave and behave like that or is he trying to attract a female. I have 2 females in the tank,4in long not quite full size.
Any opinions?
Posted: 06 Jan 2004, 22:53
by Barbie
Kotty could you please add your location to your profile? Its something we request in order to help us, help you. We promise not to become stalkers, and you're welcome to just post the country if the idea is that distasteful for you.
Mlales will definitely fan their fins to attract females.
Barbie
Posted: 07 Jan 2004, 14:02
by Kotty
Done,
Im london uk
Posted: 07 Jan 2004, 17:55
by pturley
He is trying to attract one of the females.
If you buy Armbruster's theory for the evolution of the rostral tenticules in this Genus, then this would be a plausible explaination for the behavior. I do.
Posted: 07 Jan 2004, 19:20
by Shane
I have written about about this before and believe that it is another form of fry mimicry. Ancistrinae males fan hanging part way out of their cave to trick females into thinking that they are already successful fathers caring for fry. As Paul pointed out, based on Jon's theory, it would follow that there could more than one form of fry mimicry in the family.
I recently placed 4 large L 91 in their own 20 long and placed several caves in their tank. Three of the males immediately took up caves and began fanning away. The fourth hides in the driftwood. Based on this behavior I believe I have three males and one female.
-Shane
Posted: 07 Jan 2004, 22:22
by Yann
Hi Shane!
That is for sure a very interesting point.
I surely will look closer at some of my Loricariidae with which I have trouble sexing them.
So we can also assume that a fish in a cave that does not fan is likely to be a female or an immature...
Cheers
Yann
Posted: 08 Jan 2004, 23:37
by Kotty
Thanks for the help everyone, Ill just keep waiting patiently.
Little ones too
Posted: 10 Jan 2004, 17:41
by xander
Is the fry mimicry the norm with very small bristlenose as well. I have a bunch that are barely an inch and I have seen them sit in their hiding spots with their tail barely showing and twich it. These guys are no more than six months old.
Posted: 11 Jan 2004, 16:27
by Shane
Xander,
"Tail switching" is a sign of aggression. It means get away from me and my spot. You see it a lot in the longer bodied loricariids like Sturisoma and Loricariichthys, but most other genera do it as well. "Fanning" is when a male fish sits hanging part way out of his cave and fans away like mad with his pectoral and pelvic fins as if he were fanning an egg clutch.
-Shane