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Hi guys, what diference is between L181 and L213? Lot of breeders says its the same fish. Whats your opinion?
Thank you

They are not the same fish...… I have the L181's currently and had L213's before. Besides body shape being slightly different the L181's have more spines on the dorsal..... and tail shape is also different. L181's have a white (blueish tint) tips on the tail and L181 have a seem when smaller that goes away as they grow.

HTH
Chuck

Hi Chuck, do you have any photos please?
A friend of mine has few adults and he would say they are both species. Will ask him for some photos.

I don't of the L213's..... lost the pictures a long time ago. I have pictures on my facebook page but I don't on this computer..... I switched to a new computer and haven't taken the pictures off the old one yet. https://www.facebook.com/pg/Stubys-Trop ... e_internal

HTH
Chuck

As as well what stuby already said, they have a very different head shape. Look at the position of the eyes in particular. Ancistrus dolichopterus (L181) has eyes located very much on the side of head, vs more on the top in L213.

Hi, finally got some photos of L213 or L181. Could you help to id what these are?
Thank you for the help.

Looks like L181 to me..... this is one of my pair for comparing.

Take care,
Chuck

Hi Chuck, thank you for your help. These were bought as L213
Iam little bit worried a lot of fish here is sold as L213 but finally its L181 and conversely.
What would you please say about these one, its last one from me

Thank you for your time
kuba

They look like L181 to me. They appear to have 9 spines in the dorsal fin instead of 8.... no white tip on the tail and the eyes appear to be more on the side than on the top. L181 will have a whiteish blue seam on the dorsal and tail fin when young. But that goes away as they get older.... L213's have a white tip on the tail and when in good shape will have a slight trailer coming off the tail.

Take care,
Chuck