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Loricariidae eating/not eating plants?
Posted: 16 Dec 2003, 20:42
by TalenT
Hi, i've got a question for you guys...
What about loricariids and munching on plants (Echinodorus and such). Any particular species to keep away from if you want unharmed plants?
Posted: 16 Dec 2003, 21:35
by Rusty
Panaque will decimate anything even remotely edible, including plants and sponges.
Rusty
Posted: 16 Dec 2003, 23:34
by flyinmike
I have a Spotted Orange Seam L106 that will just totally demolish a sword. Or to put it more acurately, all the swords in that tank!
Posted: 17 Dec 2003, 02:28
by Dinyar
Perhaps better to ask the question the other way around: which Loricariids won't damage plants? Generally speaking, of the Loris commonly seen in the hobby, only tiny ones like Otocinclus and meat-eating ones like Hypancistrus.
Dinyar
Posted: 17 Dec 2003, 19:13
by Yann
Hi!
Yea Hypancistrus are without a doubt a genus to go with if you don't want them to touch your plants.
Cheers
Yann
Posted: 17 Dec 2003, 22:33
by Shane
I wrote an article for Planted Aquaria magazine on this very topic entitled "Plants and Plecos" (not a very original title). I can send youy a copy if you are interested.
Basically, stay with the Hypoptopomatinae for "worker" loricariids to keep the tank free of algae. The second best subfamily are the loricariinae. Of these Sturisoma, most Rineloricaria, Sturisomatichthys, and Farlowella make good worker plecos. The meat eating and sand sifting Loricariinae (Loricarichthys, Pterosturisoma, Planiloricaria, etc) are good choices, but do not help much with algae. Any member of Hypostominae or Ancistrinae is a gamble. Most species of these two subfamiles will eat plants or, at a minimum, damage them. The other point is that the environments that these two subfamilies prefer are not at all what you are trying to maintain in a planted tank.
Bottom line, you can have a pleco tank witha few hardy plants (Java moss and Java fern, for example) or an Amano or Dutch style tank which limits you to Hypoptopomatinae and some loricariinae.
-Shane
Posted: 18 Dec 2003, 21:28
by TalenT
Thank you very much for the info!!!
Shane - About the article, is it possible for you to e-mail it to me? That would be just great!
have a nice x-mas everyone!
Posted: 19 Dec 2003, 19:02
by Jools
Shane wrote:I wrote an article for Planted Aquaria magazine on this very topic
Given the publication is no longer, are you able / willing to have it published in SW?
Jools
Posted: 19 Dec 2003, 23:09
by Shane
Jools,
An even better idea. Will send it this weekend.
-Shane
Doneatmaplanz
Posted: 19 Dec 2003, 23:11
by tauaru
I have hemiloricaria (common: RedLlizard Cats or Red Firefoxes) and a Whiptail cat, they leave my pretty much leave my plants alone. Good Luck!
Posted: 22 Dec 2003, 08:11
by Kostas
Leporacanthicus also dont eat plants but the only problem is that they dig alot and may uproot plants like vallisneria and cabomba.
Posted: 22 Dec 2003, 10:33
by Suckermouth
I just use Java Moss. I'm not that good at plants and it gives good cover, and plecs also can't get their mouths on such fine leaves!