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BN fin length?

Posted: 18 Feb 2015, 22:10
by shortykilogyrl
I have a batch of fry (first batch) from a standard fin female and long fin male. Both standard colored. They threw mostly browns but i got albinos also, which is great! What i am curious of is when i will be able to tell the long fins in the batch?

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 00:23
by Atmichaels
Should be able to tell almost immediately. Like as soon as they're out and about.

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Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 00:25
by shortykilogyrl
Weird. I just got that answer on another forum. It looks like the entire batch is standard fins then! How weird since the father is long fin??

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 03:53
by NCE12940
I'll differ - I have babies from short-fin x long-fin and couldn't see the difference right away. I did not make note of how soon the difference could be seen but it was definitely not immediately.

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 04:46
by 2wheelsx2
In my calico BNP, bred by lf man and sf female, I can tell the lf in about 10 days to 2 weeks. There'll be the odd one that looks like it's long fin where they are free swimming, but usually it takes a little while.

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 18:23
by shortykilogyrl
These are a little over a month old so by what two forums have said I should definitely be able to tell by now. So it looks, oddly enough, that I have all standard fins. :(

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 18:37
by 2wheelsx2
Post some pics. Is this your first clutch? What I have found is that the long fins don't compete well and don't grow as fast as the short fins. So if you have had die-offs, it's likely that the long fins died first.

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 19:22
by bekateen
If you have competition problems among juveniles, you might try what I do with corys - as they grow I sort them by size and separate the largest away from the rest, into another aquarium. This way, the largest don't outcompete the smallest. After a while, some of the "smalls" will begin to get too big for the rest; they too are removed so that the smalls are only competing with other "smalls".
Good luck.

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 19:23
by 2wheelsx2
I try to separate mine, but with 4 different pleco types breeding and a total of 6 tanks already, I'm pretty much out of room unless I start a fish room. :D That's not going to happen until I renovate the basement and build a new office.

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 20:29
by bekateen
You are fortunate and blessed to be burdened with so many spp. spawning at once. :)) :-BD
Cheers, Eric

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 19 Feb 2015, 21:23
by 2wheelsx2
Thanks, I normally only have 1 type spawning at a time. Not sure what's going on this year as everyone is getting into it.

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 20 Feb 2015, 19:42
by shortykilogyrl
This is my first batch and none have died. All growing about equally. I did talk to a BN specific breeder today and he said he waits until 3 months because they aren't able to determine fin length 100% until that point. He has sold some as standards prior to 3 months only to have the customers say what a great long fin BN they got.

I was moving them from a smaller tank to a larger tank with the same parameters (via API master test kit) just slightly different temperature so I floated them in the container before releasing them into the tank. I was able to count them at this time as well a total of 84 fry, no deaths thus far. 21 albino and 63 browns.

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BN fin length?

Posted: 20 Feb 2015, 19:59
by Mol_PMB
A perfect 1:3 ratio :) they must have been reading the genetics textbooks!


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Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 20 Feb 2015, 21:07
by 2wheelsx2
That last pic looks like it might be developing into a long fin?

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Posted: 20 Feb 2015, 23:57
by shortykilogyrl
2wheelsx2 wrote:That last pic looks like it might be developing into a long fin?
That's what I was thinking and why I snapped the pic of that one. I'm guessing there will be long fins in there. I came home at lunch today to a new batch! :d I think this is a long fin to long fin breeding this time. Only other one with torn fins from possible breeding.

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 21 Feb 2015, 03:00
by NCE12940
The length of the tail and the large amount of white on it were my first indications of long-fin offspring of a short-fin male x long-fin female.

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 23 Feb 2015, 16:32
by shortykilogyrl
I came home to find another batch of eggs the other day. I think this time its a long fin to long fin breeding. I'm excited to see how this batch turns out :)

Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 23 Feb 2015, 16:51
by shortykilogyrl
This is the possibly LF to LF batch of eggs

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Re: BN fin length?

Posted: 23 Feb 2015, 22:09
by shortykilogyrl
What I would assume to be a long fin starting to develop

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