help me sexing this L164

[Igor Hotasi Simamora]

I have teo of L104, can you please help me sexing both of them...

Thank you

[tagamasid1023]

Hard to tell. Close up shots of each will help.

[Torb]

Closeups are needed to confirm, my guess based on these pictures are two females.

[victoriaz24]

same here, looks like 2 fat females that look ready for a male.

[jac]

There are 2 different headshapes. Better pictures are of more help but looking at the position of the eyes and the headshape I would say the top one is a male and the bottom one a female.

[leisure_man]

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[festaedan]

Looks like a pair. Males are normally slimmer and have "hairy" fins.

[Igor Hotasi Simamora]

Thank you so much for every sugestion, this is my friend fish i just help him to sexing, so I don't have better pict.

Thank you...