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L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 14 Feb 2014, 13:48
by Cristoffer Forssander
Today I got spawns of both L200 (third time) and L128 (first time).

The parameters are interesting!
L128s spawned while i lowering the conductivity from around 190 to 40 uS/cm with a Temperature of 27-29.
The L200 spawned while I rise the conductivity back from around 40 uS/cm to around 180.
The Temperature is 29-30 degrees. In both cases Temperature has been risen with around 3 degrees witch seemes to be the more important issue.

pH are 7.1 in both cases.

I have no photos as I dont whant to disturb them. I will take photos whent things are safe! I just eggs will survive as I will let the males to their work.


Cheers

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 14 Feb 2014, 15:38
by AndersB
That is AMAZING - congratualtions! :YMAPPLAUSE: ^:)^

I have a Group of 8 L128 myself which I hope will spawn some day. Therefor I have a few questions for you - I hope you dont mind answering...

- I just have to get it right: Is your theory that rising the temperature is the factor that trickered the spawns?

- In my Group of L128 the biggest male (alfa male i guess) is a bit greenish compared to the rest of the group, which is more ink-black/blueish. Would you think the biggest male beeing a bit off color compared to the rest of the group would be a problem regarding a future spawn?

- Is all your L128 the same color?

- Is all your L128 from same import?

- And last, but actually most important to me: Would you post a few pics of how your breeding tanks look like - when it will not disturb the males ofcourse?

Thank you in advance!

Greetings - Anders

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 09:06
by CoryWally
Fantastic achievement Cristoffer.

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 18:25
by Barbie
That's fantastic news! I have groups of each, but haven't conditioned them, as I think they are predominantly male and they will require more room. Are your females as visually obvious as in other species?

Barbie

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 15 Feb 2014, 22:23
by Cristoffer Forssander
Hi!

No, these are really diffucult to sex and im not 100 %sure about all in the group.
Female have a less massive head than the male and odontodes are not as thick and long as in the males. Mature males also have odontodes on the back of their body- similar to peckoltias but not near as furry. Females dont have this.

I see no color differences among L128s and they are from different imports.

I will try to add photos later but there is no fancy set up. Caves, fine gravel, flat stones and some boog Wood.

Very clean water! I have 25% filtration of the total volyme water

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 16 Feb 2014, 13:41
by yayfish24
Thats incredible. Congrats. I cant wait to see pics. I can imagine the l200 are ardorable.

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 16 Feb 2014, 20:25
by Cristoffer Forssander
The L128 male left the cave today... The eggs where gone.
The L200 male is still fanning.

Cant be luck every time but I hope that the second spawn will do better.
I was hoping more for the L128s cause it was my first time with them.


Cristoffer

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 18 Feb 2014, 09:03
by DOLEMITE
:-BD There has to be something in that sweetish water! Great job, keep up the good work. :-BD

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 18 Feb 2014, 16:20
by AndersB
Thank you for replying! Too bad about the L128's but nice that L200 male still guards eggs!

Looking forward to Pictures:)

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 18 Feb 2014, 18:32
by mcaquatic
Congrats that is awesome. Which L200s do you have? I am growing out a group of L200 bary to try and breed, just not sure if I have any males.

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 21 Feb 2014, 21:56
by Cristoffer Forssander
Both l128 and l200 hemiancistrus.

Both spawns failed. Can't be luck every time .

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 25 Feb 2014, 10:18
by AndersB
Too bad they didnt succeed.

Is it possible for you to post a couple of pics and maybe som data like cirkulation, temperature, ppm/microsiemens, pH (was it increasing or decreasing) ect. :d

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 26 Feb 2014, 10:15
by Cristoffer Forssander
Hi

pH where decreasing in both cases. From around 6.9 to 6.4
Conductivity around 80 uS/cm
Temperature in l200 30 degrees and in l128 around 28 degrees.
In both cases temp increased from around 26-27 degrees.

Re: L128 and l200 spawn

Posted: 26 Feb 2014, 12:45
by AndersB
Thank you :-BD