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ID this Synodontis

Posted: 21 Aug 2013, 13:04
by amiidae
Came in as Synodontis cf. budgetti :-\

Fish abt 5in TL.
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Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 21 Aug 2013, 13:57
by Birger
Looks to be similar to Mark Smiths pictures here

or have a look at

Birger

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 22 Aug 2013, 00:27
by amiidae
Fm a layman point of comparison, it does look like Synodontis haugi. :)

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 05:13
by amiidae
BTW, any possibility that it may be Synodontis frontosus ?

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 05:41
by Birger
BTW, any possibility that it may be Synodontis frontosus ?
I do not believe so, at this size I think would still have juvi attributes especially juvenile spot pattern, and the humeral is different than for frontosus.

Have you found anything on the origin yet?

Birger

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 06:00
by amiidae
Thanks for point out.

Nope. Still waiting for the reply fm the supplier.

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 00:25
by amiidae
Exported out fm Nigeria. However, I am not sure whether they were collected fm there or nearby region.

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 01:05
by Birger
Makes much more sense for .

is Nile Basin and possibly east but not to the west.

Birger

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 31 Aug 2013, 00:46
by amiidae
Thanks for the input, Birger. :)

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 12 Oct 2013, 12:55
by amiidae
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Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 17:07
by jippo
It is a very beautiful Synodontis Ben, but I'm quite sure it's not haugi. Snout is wrong, adipose is too large and inner barbels has too long branches in it. At your new photo do I see correct that it has spikes on its humerall process?

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 23:48
by Birger
Yes, I am not convinced what we were calling haugi, is actually that.

I am quite sure a couple of these brown spotted ones we see are as yet undescribed.
They would be a major project to sort though.
Interesting to note the only synos that have been newly described recently besides tanganyikan synodontis in the last ten years are ones that are distinctly different.

Birger

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 12:51
by amiidae
2 more shots of the side profile. :)

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Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 14:34
by naturalart
With those reddish fins, looks like it might be S. schall

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 18:53
by Birger
With those reddish fins, looks like it might be S. schall
adipose is too large and inner barbels has too long branches in it. At your new photo do I see correct that it has spikes on its humerall process?
With the details above and add the shape of the humeral and barbels as Petterei alluded to and the great pictures (as always Ben)....we could say this is the intermediate spot pattern between juvi and adult of (thanks naturalart)
I think the pictures we have been calling S.haugi would be this and we will have to continue to wait for a live S. haugi to come along. Ben you should be looking forward to the eventual loss of the spots as it continues to mature.

Thanks all, great collective work. If all agree I could make the changes.

Birger

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 21:09
by Jools
Yeah, I agree, and they are awesome pics.

Jools

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 03:54
by amiidae
Thanks, guys. :)

Birger/Jools, Chk out my dropbox. :d

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 13:36
by naturalart
No prob Birger, total fun. And those pics-are-mighty nice amiidea.

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 15 Oct 2013, 20:31
by jippo
I agree as well so schall shall it be.

About your photos Ben... ^:)^ ^:)^ ^:)^

Re: ID this Synodontis

Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 12:47
by amiidae
Thanks for all the kind comments.

I upgraded my gear recently and I am pretty happy with the result. :)