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New Corydora Cruzeiro

Posted: 17 May 2013, 19:09
by Unungy
A nice Corydora

Re: New Corydora Cruzeiro

Posted: 18 May 2013, 14:59
by kim m
There's some loretoensis over it, but still a bit different. The dorsal marking looks too large. Some loretoensis can have black first fin rays, but not this much. not that I've seen anyway.

Re: New Corydora Cruzeiro

Posted: 23 May 2013, 19:51
by Coryman
It Might be C. cruziensis, but I would need to have an idea where it was collected and what the standard length is.

Ian

Re: New Corydora Cruzeiro

Posted: 30 May 2013, 16:44
by Unungy
I found this.

http://www.l-welse.com/reviewpost/showp ... mit/recent

However the collection point is NOT correct. I will measure them for you.

Re: New Corydora Cruzeiro

Posted: 04 Jun 2013, 22:33
by Karsten S.
Hello Saul,

how do you KNOW that the indicated collection point is wrong ?
Have you caught some by yourself ?

They are from Brazil (although most probably yours were imported from Peru/Iquitos) and according to the catchers they do come from Rio Cruzeiro as stated at www.l-welse.com.

It is certainly not C. cruziensis, I would say that they are close to C. armatus but definitely something "new".
The largest specimen that I have seen in Iquitos had a length of about 5 cm (SL) and from the looks those seemed to be rather old ones.

Cheers,

Re: New Corydora Cruzeiro

Posted: 05 Jun 2013, 17:29
by Unungy
how do you KNOW that the indicated collection point is wrong ? NOT correct is was part of the truth.
The exact collection point is Rio Jurua, approx 4 hours up from Cruzeiro do Sul.
Have you caught some by yourself ?
I wish, I could go catching fish but with the business and the second job is impossible to do so. However I work fish fishermen and biologist that help me a lot collecting fish and making sure we have the correct information\documentation for my customers.
It is certainly not C. cruziensis, I would say that they are close to C. armatus but definitely something "new".

I agree with you that we maybe dealing with something new here. I am trying to get some more information for Ian so he can document\decide if is in fact a new specie.
The largest specimen that I have seen in Iquitos had a length of about 5 cm (SL) and from the looks those seemed to be rather old ones.
I should be in a position to measure the largest in the group, thanks so much for your participation in my thread and let me know if I can be of any assistance to you.

Re: New Corydora Cruzeiro

Posted: 05 Jun 2013, 23:11
by Karsten S.
Hi Saul,

thanks for the information, I have updated this at www.l-welse.com.
The fishermen in Iquitos that came in with those beauties said to me "Rio Cruzeiro" but as these corys were not really cheap you can as often not rely too much on this kind of information.

Cheers,

Re: New Corydora Cruzeiro

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 04:46
by Unungy
thanks for the information, I have updated this at http://www.l-welse.com.
My Pleasure and thanks for keeping updated one of my very favorite sites such as http://www.l-Welse.com
The fishermen in Iquitos that came in with those beauties said to me "Rio Cruzeiro" but as these corys were not really cheap you can as often not rely too much on this kind of information.
Fishermen always come up with different stories to Iquitos - Leticia, specially when they think to have something new to offer. They never want to tell you the exact collection point, but they will eventually or I won't buy from them anymore and as you said they are not very cheap either and they are still holding a very high value in the Asian market and very rarely seen in USA, UK and other countries or at least I have not seen many around.

I will post some more pictures soon. They look cool in groups

Re: New Corydora Cruzeiro

Posted: 24 Jun 2013, 21:18
by Coryman
This species now has the code number CW079

Ian

Re: New Corydora Cruzeiro

Posted: 25 Jun 2013, 01:30
by Unungy
Great work Ian CW079 it is.