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Cream Zebra Pl(e)co Help

Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 18:57
by Neo
can anyone offer me any information on this fish??? i aquired one today for £26 and dont know much about it :? ive got gold nuggets n queen nuggets and have had zebra plecs before but i aint sure if the conditions for these are the same for this little doofer.

Thanx in advance for any help/info u can give :wink:

Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 20:16
by S. Allen
heh, not familiar with the name, got an L#?

Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 21:42
by martin808
Well hello Mr Anderson,
As a very rough guess have a look at L134 and L174 in the cat elog.

Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 21:44
by Neo
afraid not dude i just got a `cream zebra plec` for my £26 lol has the shape of a zeb just a creamy clour n different markings, im clueless :?

Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 21:47
by Neo
hmmmmm an agent 8) ok martin i'll try checking them out m8 thanx

Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 21:48
by Barbie
I'd predict you're going to need to snap a picture of the pleco, or at least browse the cat-elog a bit and narrow the field :D

Barbie

Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 22:03
by Neo
Alright i can do that, i'll catch him/her just now n use my nokia 2 get a pic lol, how do i get the pic in my 4m reply??

Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 22:08
by Silurus
Alright i can do that, i'll catch him/her just now n use my nokia 2 get a pic lol, how do i get the pic in my 4m reply??
Host the pics on another site (such as an online photoalbum service) and post a link from there.
Reading the sticky in the "What is my catfish" forum should help.

Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 22:38
by Neo
ok i took 2 pics with my nokia 3650 in poor light so the pics are poor but here they are, i hope someone can gimme some clues lol

pic1-
http://www.neocult.com/creamzebplec1.jpg

pic2-
http://www.neocult.com/creamzebplec2.jpg

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 00:34
by flyinmike
Panaqolus maccus L-104 ? 8)

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 00:54
by Neo
it deffinatly looks like the L134, Leopard frog pleco.

Anyone got any info on these?? so far its the closest looking ive found pics of :wink:

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 01:14
by S. Allen
there's a great breeding article in Shane's world by a forum member. I've got a few, including a pair I'm trying to breed, but they're pretty much standard peckoltias, treat them the same as any other. the lines looke maybe too small for L134, I can't tell exactly though

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 01:21
by Barbie
Does he remind you of Erics L333 Scott? The head shape looks a bit different, but that seems to match the lines the best. I agree, I don't think its an L134.

Barbie

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 01:24
by S. Allen
sort of, I missed the second pic, but... sort of, again, thin lines for that too... like halfway between that and L260... maybe it's just an odd pattern for the species?

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 01:27
by Neo
lol okay thanx now im really lost haha thought i knew what it was but maybe not :? if its an L134 how big will it get?

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 01:34
by Neo
ok i just checked pics of the L333 and my pleco looks more like the L134 for sure, also just noticed its eyes look kinda blueish, weird lol

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 09:34
by PhilipAsh
All of the L134's i have seen (approx 8-10) have much thicker bands, maybe 3 or 4 times the thickness of the ones shown. The general colouration looks similar, but i dont think the body shape is.

Maybe you could try and get some clearer pics?


Phil.

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 09:49
by kgroenhoej
Hi,

I thinks it's a L134

-Klaus

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 11:46
by Neo
yeah i'll try and get clearer pics today, it aint gonna like it lol, i aint got a digital camera i just have my trusty nokia 3650 camera phone :?

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 12:11
by doctorzeb
Hey Neo

very nice fish, (the gold nuggets are very impressive, there may be some people here interested in how you bred them).

rob

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 13:01
by Neo
DoctorZeb good 2 see you, how is Zipper, Zebbidy, Zoom, Zoox, Zues, Zeb, Zorro etc etc lol. breeding nuggets, with them it was accidental and in my caccatoides half cocconut shell :? i just saw a few tiny plecs one day n that was that but im having a go again as 3 of my gold nuggets are showing the need to breed :lol: even as we speak they are chasing each other giving it the big curl n shakes etc, i have a little confussed nugget who is trying to get with a queen nugget 2 lol poor little dude aint got a clue......

anyways new pics of the cream zeb is here -

Pic 1 -
http://neocult.com/Plec1.jpg
Pic 2 -
http://neocult.com/Plec2.jpg
Pic 3 -
http://neocult.com/Plec3.jpg
Pic 4 -
http://neocult.com/Plec4.jpg
Pic 5 -
http://neocult.com/Plechome.jpg

They aint great but better than the last 2 i reckon

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 13:14
by Jools
For my 2p that's a L134, but you'll never convince everyone unless you get clearer pics. I would say thouhg that from the shape of the fish it is no Hypancistrus and that rules out a few of the suggestions. It might just be some type of Panaque, but L134 is famously variable in terms of pigmentation.

Jools

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 13:17
by Neo
Jools wrote:I would say thouhg that from the shape of the fish it is no Hypancistrus and that rules out a few of the suggestions. It might just be some type of Panaque, but L134 is famously variable in terms of pigmentation.

Jools
It deffinatly has the shape of a L046 Zebra, I cant get clearer pics for now im afraid :(

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 13:20
by Jools
Maybe it's just the angle of the pictures but the head profile doesn't look steep enough and the eyes are set just a bit low in the head?



Jools

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 13:24
by Neo
it must just be the pics as it deffinatly has the shape of head like the zebra's have, hopefully i now know what it is lol L134 :?

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 14:33
by flyinmike
Jools wrote:Maybe it's just the angle of the pictures but the head profile doesn't look steep enough and the eyes are set just a bit low in the head?



Jools
Aren't the zebras snouts a little flatter than that? Also, in pic one of that second batch the mouth looks very panaqolus like.

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 15:17
by doctorzeb
I take it Keir from riverside doesn't have the L number on the retail list?

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 17:42
by Neo
i aint sure, i went up to ask Keir 2day, but he wasnt in the shop so i'll have 2 try catch him next time

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 18:59
by Janne
I have seen these at a wholesaler here in sweden and they look exactly like the L-134 except for the pattern, I think this can be a local species of L-134.

Janne

Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 19:09
by martin808
Hey Neo,
Why dont you just consult the oracle :?: She would have known what it is before you even wanted to buy it :!: Plus why you wanted to buy it :!: