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Cream Zebra Pl(e)co Help
Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 18:57
by Neo
can anyone offer me any information on this fish??? i aquired one today for £26 and dont know much about it
ive got gold nuggets n queen nuggets and have had zebra plecs before but i aint sure if the conditions for these are the same for this little doofer.
Thanx in advance for any help/info u can give
Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 20:16
by S. Allen
heh, not familiar with the name, got an L#?
Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 21:42
by martin808
Well hello Mr Anderson,
As a very rough guess have a look at L134 and L174 in the cat elog.
Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 21:44
by Neo
afraid not dude i just got a `cream zebra plec` for my £26 lol has the shape of a zeb just a creamy clour n different markings, im clueless
Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 21:47
by Neo
hmmmmm an agent
ok martin i'll try checking them out m8 thanx
Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 21:48
by Barbie
I'd predict you're going to need to snap a picture of the pleco, or at least browse the cat-elog a bit and narrow the field
Barbie
Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 22:03
by Neo
Alright i can do that, i'll catch him/her just now n use my nokia 2 get a pic lol, how do i get the pic in my 4m reply??
Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 22:08
by Silurus
Alright i can do that, i'll catch him/her just now n use my nokia 2 get a pic lol, how do i get the pic in my 4m reply??
Host the pics on another site (such as an online photoalbum service) and post a link from there.
Reading the sticky in the "What is my catfish" forum should help.
Posted: 07 Nov 2003, 22:38
by Neo
ok i took 2 pics with my nokia 3650 in poor light so the pics are poor but here they are, i hope someone can gimme some clues lol
pic1-
http://www.neocult.com/creamzebplec1.jpg
pic2-
http://www.neocult.com/creamzebplec2.jpg
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 00:34
by flyinmike
Panaqolus maccus L-104 ?
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 00:54
by Neo
it deffinatly looks like the L134, Leopard frog pleco.
Anyone got any info on these?? so far its the closest looking ive found pics of
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 01:14
by S. Allen
there's a great breeding article in Shane's world by a forum member. I've got a few, including a pair I'm trying to breed, but they're pretty much standard peckoltias, treat them the same as any other. the lines looke maybe too small for L134, I can't tell exactly though
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 01:21
by Barbie
Does he remind you of Erics L333 Scott? The head shape looks a bit different, but that seems to match the lines the best. I agree, I don't think its an L134.
Barbie
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 01:24
by S. Allen
sort of, I missed the second pic, but... sort of, again, thin lines for that too... like halfway between that and L260... maybe it's just an odd pattern for the species?
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 01:27
by Neo
lol okay thanx now im really lost haha thought i knew what it was but maybe not
if its an L134 how big will it get?
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 01:34
by Neo
ok i just checked pics of the L333 and my pleco looks more like the L134 for sure, also just noticed its eyes look kinda blueish, weird lol
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 09:34
by PhilipAsh
All of the L134's i have seen (approx 8-10) have much thicker bands, maybe 3 or 4 times the thickness of the ones shown. The general colouration looks similar, but i dont think the body shape is.
Maybe you could try and get some clearer pics?
Phil.
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 09:49
by kgroenhoej
Hi,
I thinks it's a L134
-Klaus
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 11:46
by Neo
yeah i'll try and get clearer pics today, it aint gonna like it lol, i aint got a digital camera i just have my trusty nokia 3650 camera phone
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 12:11
by doctorzeb
Hey Neo
very nice fish, (the gold nuggets are very impressive, there may be some people here interested in how you bred them).
rob
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 13:01
by Neo
DoctorZeb good 2 see you, how is Zipper, Zebbidy, Zoom, Zoox, Zues, Zeb, Zorro etc etc lol. breeding nuggets, with them it was accidental and in my caccatoides half cocconut shell
i just saw a few tiny plecs one day n that was that but im having a go again as 3 of my gold nuggets are showing the need to breed
even as we speak they are chasing each other giving it the big curl n shakes etc, i have a little confussed nugget who is trying to get with a queen nugget 2 lol poor little dude aint got a clue......
anyways new pics of the cream zeb is here -
Pic 1 -
http://neocult.com/Plec1.jpg
Pic 2 -
http://neocult.com/Plec2.jpg
Pic 3 -
http://neocult.com/Plec3.jpg
Pic 4 -
http://neocult.com/Plec4.jpg
Pic 5 -
http://neocult.com/Plechome.jpg
They aint great but better than the last 2 i reckon
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 13:14
by Jools
For my 2p that's a L134, but you'll never convince everyone unless you get clearer pics. I would say thouhg that from the shape of the fish it is no Hypancistrus and that rules out a few of the suggestions. It might just be some type of Panaque, but L134 is famously variable in terms of pigmentation.
Jools
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 13:17
by Neo
Jools wrote:I would say thouhg that from the shape of the fish it is no Hypancistrus and that rules out a few of the suggestions. It might just be some type of Panaque, but L134 is famously variable in terms of pigmentation.
Jools
It deffinatly has the shape of a L046 Zebra, I cant get clearer pics for now im afraid
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 13:20
by Jools
Maybe it's just the angle of the pictures but the head profile doesn't look steep enough and the eyes are set just a bit low in the head?
Jools
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 13:24
by Neo
it must just be the pics as it deffinatly has the shape of head like the zebra's have, hopefully i now know what it is lol L134
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 14:33
by flyinmike
Jools wrote:Maybe it's just the angle of the pictures but the head profile doesn't look steep enough and the eyes are set just a bit low in the head?
Jools
Aren't the zebras snouts a little flatter than that? Also, in pic one of that second batch the mouth looks very panaqolus like.
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 15:17
by doctorzeb
I take it Keir from riverside doesn't have the L number on the retail list?
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 17:42
by Neo
i aint sure, i went up to ask Keir 2day, but he wasnt in the shop so i'll have 2 try catch him next time
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 18:59
by Janne
I have seen these at a wholesaler here in sweden and they look exactly like the L-134 except for the pattern, I think this can be a local species of L-134.
Janne
Posted: 08 Nov 2003, 19:09
by martin808
Hey Neo,
Why dont you just consult the oracle
She would have known what it is before you even wanted to buy it
Plus why you wanted to buy it