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WTB Pitbull Pleco / Paratocinclus Giant / LDA25

Posted: 24 Apr 2013, 13:14
by Jalmay
Found 2 as contaminants @LFS. Looking to make a group of these cool little guys. Any leads or help would be appreciated. Willing to PU in Northeast US. Thanks for any help folks!

Re: WTB Pitbull Pleco / Paratocinclus Giant / LDA25

Posted: 27 Apr 2013, 19:16
by nvcichlids
Any local fish store should be able to order them for you.

Re: WTB Pitbull Pleco / Paratocinclus Giant / LDA25

Posted: 01 May 2013, 23:38
by Jalmay
Thanks for the reply nvcichlids. Unfortunately, no dice with any of the better LFS. Most said they come in as contaminants. Bought my 2 out of a mixed river loach tank. Trying to find any leads I can. People say they're easy breeders, yet none around for sale! Thanks again.

Re: WTB Pitbull Pleco / Paratocinclus Giant / LDA25

Posted: 02 May 2013, 01:03
by MatsP
nvcichlids wrote:Any local fish store should be able to order them for you.
Really? Considering that they [applies to all species of Parotocinclus] are not allowed to export from Brazil (that is, they are not on the "whitelist" of species allowed for export), and as far as I know, they are not commercially.

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Mats

Re: WTB Pitbull Pleco / Paratocinclus Giant / LDA25

Posted: 02 May 2013, 19:18
by nvcichlids
MatsP wrote:
nvcichlids wrote:Any local fish store should be able to order them for you.
Really? Considering that they [applies to all species of Parotocinclus] are not allowed to export from Brazil (that is, they are not on the "whitelist" of species allowed for export), and as far as I know, they are not commercially.

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Mats

I thought if it was a described species it was white listed (atleast I thought I read that at one point, but definately could be wrong)? LDA 25 being listed as Paratocinclus jumbo (is that really the scientific name?).

I have seen them locally here, but never have shipped fish before. I also have some 1.25" that are F1's, but that doesn't help with your Jumbos.

Re: WTB Pitbull Pleco / Paratocinclus Giant / LDA25

Posted: 02 May 2013, 21:12
by Narwhal72
They are available commercially but it appears to be seasonal. Segrest farms has them on their list for months at a time but they aren't on the list this week and I can't recall the last time I have seen them. Just perusing through old emails I don't see them listed anytime between 1/31/13 and now.

When they are available they are regular items for months at a time. Of course these could be Florida or Asian farm raised fish and may not be wild caught from Brazil. If they are being found as contaminants in shipments of loaches this would make me think they are Asian farm raised fish since there are no loaches in South America.

Andy

Re: WTB Pitbull Pleco / Paratocinclus Giant / LDA25

Posted: 02 May 2013, 23:55
by MatsP
Narwhal72 wrote:They are available commercially but it appears to be seasonal. Segrest farms has them on their list for months at a time but they aren't on the list this week and I can't recall the last time I have seen them. Just perusing through old emails I don't see them listed anytime between 1/31/13 and now.
Being seasonal points at wild fish. Captive bred fish tends to be available all year around. It is of course possible that they are being exported, just not under the correct name. It wouldn't be the first time that happens...
If they are being found as contaminants in shipments of loaches this would make me think they are Asian farm raised fish since there are no loaches in South America.
Or they are being mixed up at the wholesaler/importer etc.

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Mats

Re: WTB Pitbull Pleco / Paratocinclus Giant / LDA25

Posted: 03 May 2013, 12:46
by Georgina
Jalmay wrote: People say they're easy breeders, yet none around for sale!.
yeah that true Breed is so easy.
that impossible none around selling.
i guess you need to look out in the site and have a shipping for good.

Re: WTB Pitbull Pleco / Paratocinclus Giant / LDA25

Posted: 03 May 2013, 15:15
by Narwhal72
Mats. It is possible that we have a bit of both going on here.

Wild caught fish that are being exported on a seasonal basis and farm raised fish that were mixed in with loaches in Jalmay's case.

No way to really tell unless you know who the wholesaler is getting them from.

Andy