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Ctenoloricaria or Harttia?

Posted: 13 Jan 2013, 10:54
by MatsP
Looking at Harttia species in Cat-elog vs. Fishbase & CAS, it seems like the latter has as Harttia fowleri. Is there a reason it's different here vs. the other sites?

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Mats

Re: Ctenoloricaria or Harttia?

Posted: 13 Jan 2013, 11:52
by Raph
fowleri, Oxyloricaria Pellegrin [J.] 1908:126 [Bulletin de la Société Zoologique de France v. 33; ref. 14331] Camopi River, French Guiana. Holotype (unique): MNHN 1901-0372. Type catalog: Bertin & Estève 1950:75 [ref. 19575], Ferraris 2007:233 [ref. 29155]. •Valid as Cteniloricaria fowleri (Pellegrin 1908) -- (Isbrücker 1980:91 [ref. 2303], Burgess 1989:440 [ref. 12860], Le Bail et al. 2000:266 [ref. 24549], Isbrücker 2001:26, 30 [ref. 25653], Isbrücker 2002:15 [ref. 27178], Ferraris in Reis et al. 2003:331 [ref. 27061], Ferraris 2007:233 [ref. 29155]). •Valid as Harttia fowleri (Pellegrin 1908) -- (Rapp Py-Daniel & Oliveira 2001:81 [ref. 25404], Provenzano et al. 2005:521 [ref. 28461], Covain et al. 2006:9 [ref. 28739], Covain et al. 2012:154 [ref. 32000]). Current status: Valid as Harttia fowleri (Pellegrin 1908). Loricariidae: Loricariinae. Distribution: Oyapock River basin: Brazil and French Guiana. Habitat: freshwater.

Re: Ctenoloricaria or Harttia?

Posted: 13 Jan 2013, 12:01
by Jools
Pretty sure it's just never been updated to reflect Raph and others' research.

Jools

Re: Ctenoloricaria or Harttia?

Posted: 13 Jan 2013, 12:07
by Raph
Hi,

No, it has been updated. Current status on the Catalog of Fishes is: Harttia fowleri (see the end of the previous copy-paste). For the taxonomy, the most reliable source remains the Catalog of Fishes...

Cheers
Raph.

Re: Ctenoloricaria or Harttia?

Posted: 13 Jan 2013, 12:09
by MatsP
I think what Jools meant was that WE haven't updated to follow the latest papers. Thanks Raph for confirming that there's no special reason why it's not in Harttia. I will move it.

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Mats

Re: Ctenoloricaria or Harttia?

Posted: 13 Jan 2013, 13:48
by Jools
You're right Mats, the original question asked why it was different here and I just responded in that context. If moving, it would be a good one to add the synonym as this is a sometimes used name (in quick find / searches etc).

I asked Marc recently to assist with adding some of the commonly encountered pleco synonyms but he's rather busy at present. I've done Zonancistrus, but there are a lot of Panaqolus that should have a Panaque synonym. I'll get around to that eventually!

Jools

Re: Ctenoloricaria or Harttia?

Posted: 13 Jan 2013, 14:39
by MatsP
Yes, done the synonym now.

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Mats