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i own a groep of 9 of those
they are all from a wc group this is f1 and f2
aduld are like 8tl
male are verry harry
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss23 ... G_9553.jpg
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss23 ... G_9552.jpg
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss23 ... G_9562.jpg
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss23 ... G_9561.jpg

sorry pics where to much pixels so needed links

thnx in advance

To me these don't look like L316, and they look a lot like my L333.

Suckermouth wrote:To me these don't look like L316, and they look a lot like my L333.

I agree that they do not look like L316.

The tail is to forked for L333 I think. Maybe something like L66 or L400.
Eyes are certainly to big and misplaced for L316.

for l66 those are way to small
the biggest fih (over 7 years owned bij the seller)
is like 8 cm tl
i really wanna know what those fish are

I really cannot help what fish these are. But "too small" isn't a good reason to exclude a species. When conditions are not like they should be (water too cold, wrong food, infrequent water changes etc.) the fish will be stunted. Have a look at all the Pangasius that are sold as pets. Ever seen one that was even close to 4 feet?

we watched better and have fish around 10maby 11 cm tl
i really wanna know what i own
hope some one can help me out

4 out of 255
i hoped to get more respose

With juveniles, it is very difficult to distinguish what is being looked at. In some cases, even adults are nearly impossible. If you posted pics of the adults, it may be possible to make a guess. However, most people won't respond because they know anything said will be debated.

My personal thought is only because you mention the males being very hairy. My L333 were never covered well enough to bother mentioning. However, like mentioned above, that is only a guess based on the striped pattern and hairy males. There is a long list of other species which they could be.

Larry

thn

what i found out

we have a verry forked tail
hypansmatching that are
l66
l236
l316
l400
l401
and what the cat elogg calls the l287 (witch is l400/l399)

i hope i have photo's of the bigger fish soon

To me these belong in the L333/401 group. Eyes are too big for L316.

Haakon

L333

Your new pics look like my L-410 Hypancistrus.

Maybe pic 2+4 and 5 could be another hypan,but nice fish anyway

I concur with the yellow king tiger (333) votes....looks like you stole my group

I didn't seen anything particularly hairy, but regardless have to agree with the L333 based on the new pics.

Larry

so we have most votes on l333 i see
hmmmm i thought the tail is to pointy for that
i thought i found the match in the l287 whats now called l400

Picture 5 in that last group of pictures looks deformed. L333 is my thought as well.

how you guys think about l173B ?
http://www.bellenz.com/galleries3.php?j ... ipe=L-173B

This is still an L333. It has been discussed in the past, and most likely the "b" variant of L173 is either a hybrid intended to look similar to the true L173 (most do not), or someone marketing their fish to get the extra buzz from the rarity of L173. Since it's not directly related to the question, I'll leave it at saying L333.

Larry

this species aint no L333 for sure!! Maybe more like L450/L400/L287... Although L173b is a diferent fish then the L333 and the L450 ;)

pleco_breeder wrote:This is still an L333. It has been discussed in the past, and most likely the "b" variant of L173 is either a hybrid intended to look similar to the true L173 (most do not), or someone marketing their fish to get the extra buzz from the rarity of L173. Since it's not directly related to the question, I'll leave it at saying L333.

Larry

L173b is an unfortunate label in the first place, as it is creating more and more confusion and questions among fishkeepers.

L173b was invented by Aquarium Glaser in Germany, and is not courtesey of DATZ at all. Glaser added the 'b' to a line of Hypancistrus raised by a German breeder who sell them these fish. The parent fish were/are supposedly L173, but the offspring varies so much that many of them are difficult to sell as pure L173. So, as with i.e. Koi carps, a 'b' has been added to point out that these are sort of 'b-class' L173. The few 'a-class' L173 produced by the breeder aren't even listed by Glaser, as they are sold for a higher price to awaiting customers.

L173b looks much less like L173 than what is expected of L173. So when these end up at fishkeepers thinking they bought the real deal, they often become confused and annoyed, and many ask questions about their fish at forums like this. Very understandable Sure, L173 is as variable as many other black/white Hypancistrus, but adding letters to the numbers don't help much in this particular case.

Haakon

steph en jess wrote:

i must say the top fish is my l333 around 18 month old
ather fish is from the topic around 36 month old