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Not for children..

Posted: 16 Apr 2012, 04:44
by notaclue
Buddies gulper has a tumour or growth growing on his gulper cat. Anything that can be done to help.
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Re: Not for children..

Posted: 16 Apr 2012, 04:57
by racoll
If benign, it can be removed. I would contact a veterinarian, preferably one with experience with fish.

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 16 Apr 2012, 10:46
by MatsP
Here's a thread on a goldfish with a tumour.

http://forum.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk ... hp?t=85119

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Mats

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 17 Apr 2012, 06:30
by notaclue
He is considerring it. Thank you for the link.

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 14:59
by Scleropages
I'm curious how a vet would treat this. I assume it would be lanced with a scapel. But, how would the resulting wound be treated? Cauterization? Crazy glue? Hydrocolloid patch?

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 15:19
by MatsP
Scleropages wrote:I'm curious how a vet would treat this. I assume it would be lanced with a scapel. But, how would the resulting wound be treated? Cauterization? Crazy glue? Hydrocolloid patch?
If you check the link I posted, it shows parts of the operation - admittedly on a goldfish rather than catfish, but I believe the procedure is pretty similar.

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Mats

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 19:10
by notaclue
Think we are going to try and do it ourselves. He don't have a thousand dollars for the quote he was given. We are working on getting the aqualife tms here in /canada through my vet. Doing some research now to figure out the best way. I want to cut it out as close to the body as possible and he want s to make a small incision at the bulge and get out as much as possible by squeezing it out. we;ll figure it out. He is attached to the fish and doesn't want to euthanize without giving him a chance. Thanks again,

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 18 Apr 2012, 19:33
by Scleropages
$1000? Sheesh, that's steep. I'll do it for only $900. :d

Thanks, Mats. The answer to my question is on the 2nd page in your link.

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 19 Apr 2012, 02:07
by racoll
It's a shame the vet is so expensive, but I'd say it's far too big a risk for untrained people to try and perform the operation themselves.

If the fish is otherwise healthy, I would just leave it be.

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 19 Apr 2012, 03:50
by notaclue
I don't think the tumour will stop growing......... eventually kill the fish .

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 19 Apr 2012, 05:25
by Scleropages
notaclue wrote:I want to cut it out as close to the body as possible and he want s to make a small incision at the bulge and get out as much as possible by squeezing it out.
I wouldn't try the latter method. Too much risk of bleeding out and/or subsequent infection. Your best bet is lancing as much of the tumor/cyst as possible. Like the link Mats provided, cauterization (soldering iron, maybe) looks like the best option for post op wound tx. And, I would highly recommend using a tranquilizer... for the fish.

Once the fish is knocked out, you should be able to do the cutting and branding in 5 minutes max. Make sure you have everything laid out before you begin. And, for reviving the fish, I've found that holding them facing a powerhead or filter outlet helps.

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 26 Apr 2012, 22:51
by CatfishPownage63
my dog had a growth on her face but the vet removed it and they might be able to do it with your gulper cat but that has nothing to do with catfish

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 09:05
by Marc van Arc
CatfishPownage63 wrote:my dog had a growth on her face but the vet removed it and they might be able to do it with your gulper cat(thats what she said) but that has nothing to do with catfish
I noticed your age and after some time I even understood the joke, which I liked.
However, pls bear in mind that these people are doing their utmost to save a fish and may not be "rolling on the floor with laughter".

I hope everything works out fine for them and the Gulper cat of course. Good luck!

Edit: rotfwl-icon removed from quote.

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 18:39
by CatfishPownage63
ok iam sorry i will edit the joke out i guess iam still just a kid

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 29 Apr 2012, 19:45
by Marc van Arc
CatfishPownage63 wrote:ok iam sorry i will edit the joke out i guess iam still just a kid
So you didn't look at the title of this thread... Just kidding :d
You may be just a kid, but you're a good kid! Thanks!

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 30 Apr 2012, 04:05
by CatfishPownage63
thanks :d and because of the title is why checked it out and it was my first post

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 30 Apr 2012, 11:01
by grokefish
I think people should be bit less prissy about treating fish, I would just get hold of it and slice it open ,see whats going down and go from there.
I't will be fine, fish are hard as nails,I cut a bumblebee catfish out of the gills of a , the gills are much more sensitive than the tail end and he was fine.
I have seen fish with their whole tail section bitten off and survive.
Sharpen up the knives and get on with it.

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 22 May 2012, 00:25
by CatfishPownage63
the thing is grokefish some people accually care about catfish and dont go oh my catfish has a tumor i better sharpen my knifes and cut that crap off and if you do the poor catfish could bleed to death

Re: Not for children..

Posted: 27 May 2012, 18:50
by kitty2234
Hi Fish Friends,

I wish that I was able to perform surgery on some of my fish! A few of my fish have died from holding the fry too long and having too many fry to give birth to.

I have one fish that either has a broken back or a broken tail - I can't be sure. That fish is around 1.5 years old and has given birth twice, so far. The break on the fish is where the spine and tail seem to met. The fish has problems diving, but no problems eatting.

kitty2234