Discussion: L90B, L186A, LDA28, L329

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 07 Oct 2003, 09:27

Have photographed the L186A picture in October 5 I to the aquarium, But I see "Planet Catfish" that L90B, L186A, LDA28, L329 to put on identical place data , to this matter, my some questions they whether should put on the identical place ?

http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/lo ... 1022_f.htm Planet Catfish

This is I the picture which the "water world" the aquarium photograph in Taiwan (L186A).

http://www.corydorasworld.com/planetcat ... ry/album98 LZ

This is the Japanese web, I thought is L90B, but is not LDA28, I cannot determine (because I do not have many LDA28 picture good reference).

http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/kyen/tro ... spynyo.htm Japanese web

This is German web L329.

http://www.l-welse.com/forum/index.php? ... =03&ID=334 German web

This year Taiwan imported many L186A and L329, were more than the past many.

L329 with the German WEB picture, on the body is the straight strip pattern, But that L186A is not the fixed pattern, I blind has any difference from their body.

I saw L186A perhaps the L329 extremely small juvenile fish, 5 centimeter big, is approximately different with L90B.

I need everybody for me a suggestion, extremely thanks everybody the help.

1. L90B=LDA28

2. L186A=L329 (because L186A certainly is not an official L serial number, now DATZ has given L329 this L serial number? ? ?)

3. You thought this L90B/LDA28/L186A/L329 is the same fish?

* Today sees the correlation the discussion content.

http://forum.planetcatfish.com/viewtopic.php?t=3103 (Papa Panaque or L329?)

Caol_ila · Post by **Caol_ila** » 07 Oct 2003, 11:25

Hi!

I havent been able to find anyone on german forums owning them.

You also have to take into Account that L329 was presented in 1997 as LDA27.
After receiving mails from Erwin i think that L329(LDA27) should be a different fish for the time being. I got pics of LDA28 by Erwin (maybe ill ask him for permission to post them here) and to me they are very close to L186a. Especially as my fish isnt very big (not as small as L329) theres a good chance it didnt have the striped pattern just a couple of centimeters ago...at least thats what i think.

greetings
C

Caol_ila · Post by **Caol_ila** » 07 Oct 2003, 18:55

Hi!

With the authorisation of Erwin Schraml here are his pics of LDA 28 supposedly a male (12-13 cm) and female (9 cm).
Male (?) LDA28

Female (?)

Pictures may not be reproduced without E.Schraml authorisation.

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 07 Oct 2003, 19:07

Caol_ila wrote:Hi!
You also have to take into Account that L329 was presented in 1997 as LDA27.

Sorry, I thought is was LDA28?

Jools

YouTube · Post by **Jools** » 07 Oct 2003, 19:11

The only official l-number in all this is L329. This is, I think, a young small fish and that all these pictures, l and lda numbers mentioned thus far are the same species which obviously changes colour (although not shape very much) as it grows and also adult males and females look different.

I also think belongs to the same genus as the coal pleco or peruvian lyretail another master of disguise. I have seen these fish coal black and creamy white and most shades in between. In fact, the pictures at the top of the post a quite close to it.

Anyway, that is why I have labelled the fish as such on Planet Catfish.

Jools

Caol_ila · Post by **Caol_ila** » 07 Oct 2003, 19:25

Hi!

On the lower left you can see LDA27 presented in 1996.

took the photo from the poster "die schÃ¶nsten L-Nummern" Aqualog
Imo LDA27=L329

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 11 Oct 2003, 18:49

What type status is this fish?

Japanese magazine.

Plec0maniac · Post by **Plec0maniac** » 13 Oct 2003, 06:55

lz it looks like either a panaque sp. or a cochliodon sp.

L.Z · Post by **L.Z** » 02 Nov 2003, 04:18

Sorry,This is my in October L90B which photographs to the friend family in, I believe firmly this L90B am not L186A, L329.

L90B

Their two between bodies differences very many, you can see them to be different place.

L90B is the scarce fish, is not L186A and L329 (is not because of sex perhaps vegetal period relations), at least I am such think.

Mentions L329=LDA27 in the middle of the new book.

"Loricariidae all L-Numbers EXTRA "

The Japanese books picture, I thought that is L90B.

Yann · Post by **Yann** » 02 Nov 2003, 14:34

Hi!
Just to point out that L90b and L186a are no official L-number but only a creation of the Aqualog book company. So for me they do not exist...
Cheers
Yann