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Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 21:40
by Martin S
Picked this up Saturday from a Maidenhead Aquatics, only remaining one in their tanks, and no price tag or any idea of what they were selling it as.
The markings are very honeycomb like, and what would be white on a 'standard' ancistrus is orange.
![ancistrus1.jpg (148.21 KiB) Viewed 4303 times Ancistrus, lateral view.](./download/file.php?id=7729&t=1)
- Ancistrus, lateral view.
![ancistrus3.jpg (163.06 KiB) Viewed 4303 times Ancistrus side view, 1 of 2](./download/file.php?id=7731&t=1)
- Ancistrus side view, 1 of 2
![ancistrus4.jpg (156.13 KiB) Viewed 4303 times Ancistrus side view, 2 of 2](./download/file.php?id=7732&t=1)
- Ancistrus side view, 2 of 2
Thanks
Martin
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 10:27
by Martin S
I know Ancistrus are notoriously difficult to ID, but was hoping, as it came from a chain store, this would hopefully limit the number of species it could be...or maybe not
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Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 10:40
by MatsP
My immediate thought was
, but when I look at our L309's, they don't match. How about
? (First picture doesn't look a good match, but second and maybe third does)
As does these:
http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/auction/ ... 1317345455
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Mats
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 10:55
by Martin S
Thanks Mats, and yes, I agree L089 is a distinct possibility. I will try and take a few more pictures as it settles in and maybe confirm the ID with some better pictures.
Martin
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 12:25
by Richard B
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 12:53
by Martin S
Richard B wrote:Would
be a possibility?
Hi Richard
It maybe a possibility, but as stated above, I (maybe incorrectly) made the assumption that as it came from a chain (MA), it was never going to be anything that unusual. It's size is only about 2", so most probably has a bit of growing to do before I can determine it's sex.
Cheers
Martin
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 12:57
by MatsP
MA gets many unusual fish, as they import directly from Brazil and Far East, as well as through transshippers (in Miami) and local suppliers (Neil Hardy for example), so there is really no telling what you may or may not get from their shops - remember the
where available in MA (at least in the branch near me).
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Mats
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 13:06
by Martin S
MatsP wrote:MA gets many unusual fish, as they import directly from Brazil and Far East, as well as through transshippers (in Miami) and local suppliers (Neil Hardy for example), so there is really no telling what you may or may not get from their shops - remember the
where available in MA (at least in the branch near me).
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Mats
I didn't realise that Mats! And I'd love to get my hands on some more of those Imparfinis - they are great fish to keep! My batch came from Neil Hardy's via a LFS.
Martin
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 13:14
by MatsP
I'd like to get my hand on my original ones
Edit: Which were yours originally!
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Mats
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 13:19
by Martin S
MatsP wrote:I'd like to get my hand on my original ones
Edit: Which were yours originally!
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Mats
Yes, funnily enough i just looked back at my record for them and as I thought, you had them. Shame they were one of the fish you didn't get to move.
Will both have to remember to keep our eyes open for them.
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 12 Oct 2011, 21:23
by Martin S
Not sure if these will help confirm/change the current tentative ID of L089, but got a couple of shots of the underside, so thought I'd post them anyway:
Thanks
Martin
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 13 Oct 2011, 00:05
by Deb
Slightly OT, Martin. These pix are very nice, esp the second set and the third pic in the first set. Sadly, I can't help with ID but I will say I see some tiny bristles and the fish looks well-fed!
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Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 13 Oct 2011, 00:14
by Martin S
Deb wrote:Slightly OT, Martin. These pix are very nice, esp the second set and the third pic in the first set. Sadly, I can't help with ID but I will say I see some tiny bristles and the fish looks well-fed!
![Big hug :YMHUG:](./images/smilies/6.gif)
Thanks - OT is fine with me
Am just getting to grips with my new camera, hopefully the pics will continue to improve!
I think it's almost definitely a female, and although she hasn't seemed to take any interest in algae wafers, as you say, is definitely looking well fed!
Thanks again
Martin
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 20:17
by Martin S
So nearly two years on and still not got round to confirming the ID! She (assuming a she based on the lack of bristles) was out tonight so grabbed a photo:
FYI Size is 4" SL
Martin
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 16 Jul 2013, 11:03
by monkiecat
L156 mabye ...
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 16 Jul 2013, 11:51
by Jools
Maybe
but I am not familiar with these much - maybe @Yann might know them better?
Jools
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 16 Jul 2013, 19:27
by Karsten S.
Hi,
certainly no
Ancistrus sp. "Rio Tocantins".
We caught some Ancistrus in Rio Itaya (Peru) which looked very similar.
Without catching location it will be very difficult to say something definite.
Cheers,
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 18 Jul 2013, 07:27
by Martin S
monkiecat wrote:L156 mabye ...
Hmmm not sure, but as we know without capture location, it's almost impossible...I just don't like not knowing for sure!
kamas88 wrote:Hi,
certainly no
Ancistrus sp. "Rio Tocantins".
We caught some Ancistrus in Rio Itaya (Peru) which looked very similar.
Without catching location it will be very difficult to say something definite.
Cheers,
Yes, very similar, probably the closest I've seen! Thanks.
Martin
Re: Help with Ancistrus ID please...
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 13:12
by Yann
Hi!!
Agree it is not sp Rio Tocantins, Martin species looks bigger and pattern is different!
L156 seems to be a good id too as the one from Karsten
Cheers
Yann