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Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 25 Sep 2011, 18:00
by The.Dark.One
A couple of friends and your Unholiness went to Pier today having seen the latest blogspot images of weird Doras. Some cracking fish. The most stunning were some massive Panaqolus 'Arabesque' cats (possibly adult L452?). They were around 5 to 6 inches SL! Excuse my crappy images but they were a sight to behold. The dominant fish was sat on the top of the piece of bogwood, surveying his kingdom.

There were also:

Anadoras sp (possibly grypus)
Amblydoras (possibly monitor)
Amblydoras 'Robocop' - not see that one before
'Transparent Otocinclus' - possibly Hypoptopoma brevirostratum
Microglanis sp Peru - huge adults (they only get about 3 to 4 inches)
True Microglanis poecilus
Corydoras 'longnose sychri' - possibly C053
Cory acutus
Cory CW058
Cory pastazensis (and an orcesi mixed in!)
Panaqolus - possibly large L206
Crossoloricaria or maybe Cteniloricaria species?
Physopyxis lyra
Corydoras eques
C. pulcher (very large)
CW028 (very large)
C haraldschultzei
C. robinae
Hemiodontichthys acipenserinus
And many more!

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 25 Sep 2011, 18:08
by The.Dark.One
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See Piers blog for the Doras and some of the others

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 25 Sep 2011, 18:18
by CoryWally
I couldn't join the trip due to family stuff but the lads picked up a pair of pinnochio whiptails for me, cracking fish.

Those panaqolus are incredible!

Cheers for the pics - and to Neil of course for more amazing imports.

Mark.

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 25 Sep 2011, 18:23
by The.Dark.One
The 'Arabesque' were giants, very nice!

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 25 Sep 2011, 18:54
by Borbi
Good evening Dark Lord,

you´re (almost) right, the "Arabesque" are Panaque sp. "L 453" (L 452 is a Pseudacanthicus).
The large ones are quite stunning, I have to agree!

Cheers, Sandor

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 25 Sep 2011, 19:02
by CoryWally
Borbi wrote:Dark Lord,
Oh please he doesn't need his ego stroking any more! :d

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 25 Sep 2011, 19:02
by The.Dark.One
Ah, I wrote the number down right and then couldn't read my own writing!

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 25 Sep 2011, 19:36
by matthewfaulkner
How much were the Panaque sp. 'arabesque'? I might visit tomorrow and will need to brace my wallet.

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 25 Sep 2011, 21:13
by The.Dark.One
£250 each I think but they were huge for Panaqolus

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 25 Sep 2011, 21:24
by matthewfaulkner
The.Dark.One wrote:£250 each I think but they were huge for Panaqolus
Oh, slightly more than I was anticipating, thanks anyway. Still worth a visit though.

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 01:13
by racoll
I like the a lot!

These were the M. sp. "Peru", right?

How much were they?

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 03:00
by syno321
You don't have to apologise for your images. I think they did a great job of representing some different facets of some unique fish.

Hail to the "Dark Lord" ^:)^

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 04:19
by racoll
It's worth also mentioning the Pier blog, where more photos can be found: http://thepieraquatics.blogspot.com/

I'd like to see the ?

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 06:44
by Norman
racoll wrote: I'd like to see the ?
Me too!

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 08:00
by sidguppy
and I like to see anything NOT L-number, NOT corydoras
:D

there's a bunch of those in the list mentioned...doradids and other weird oddballs

The Precious!
We wants it!

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 10:48
by The.Dark.One
Thanks guys.

Some of the other fish can be seen on the link to Pier's blog.

The Microglanis are sp. Peru but they are fully grown adults. Here are some young ones my friend has had for some years. But the colours on the Pier ones are much better.
http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/pseud ... _peru2.jpg

The 'Crossoloricaria' are about 9 inches TL! I have a couple of poor images of them - they dont do them justice. Will post them when I get back home. The pattern reminds me more of Cteniloricaria or Harttia but the barbels on the upper lip don't seem right for those genera?

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 10:59
by Norman
The.Dark.One wrote: The 'Crossoloricaria' are about 9 inches TL! I have a couple of poor images of them - they dont do them justice. Will post them when I get back home.
Do you know where they came from?
I am very excited if it is really a Crossoloricaria! There are only 2 described species reaching that size. I am looking forward seeing the pictures.

so long
Norman

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 16:09
by The.Dark.One
Sorry for the confusion guys. These are the 'Crossoloricaria sp Peru' (about 5 inches TL I think):

http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/loric ... p_peru.jpg

Though they look a bit like what is in the clog as ?

The ones I was looking at are (no wonder they didn't look like a Crossoloricaria!) These pictures are very dark, sorry:

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Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 17:57
by Acanthicus
The.Dark.One wrote: Though they look a bit like what is in the clog as ?
Agree. They seem to have very long barbels and the head shape looks like the one Apistoloricaria have. If you have the option to compare the barbels of the fish it is pretty easy to differentiate between the two genera.

Crossoloricaria sp. "Río Palometilla"
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Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 18:11
by The.Dark.One
Thanks

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 18:32
by Borbi
Hi,

this fish:
is indeed Apistoloricaria. Note the extremely extended first dorsal ray they share with Planiloricaria.

Wouldn´t dare to identify them down to species, that is Norman´s area of expertise (though they "should" be A. ommation alright).

These here are A. ommation:
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Cheers, Sandor

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 19:22
by Norman
The.Dark.One wrote: http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/loric ... p_peru.jpg

Though they look a bit like what is in the clog as ?
OMG - It is!
And I have just one female and 5 males. Is there anyone coming to the l-number days who could bring with 1 or 2 females for me?
The.Dark.One wrote:The ones I was looking at are Spatuloricaria sp`rio_nanay`(no wonder they didn't look like a Crossoloricaria!)
Yes, that should be Spatuloricaria sp`rio_nanay`.

so long
Norman

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 19:26
by The.Dark.One
The only person I know from UK going to L-days is Jools.

What about this Pseudohemiodon sp Peru. Is it still just 'sp Peru'? (Sorry about the dark pic)

http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/loric ... p_peru.jpg

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 19:29
by Norman
Okay, thanks! I'll ask Jools.

That should be a undescribed species (from Peru), so would call it Pseudohemiodon sp. "peru".

so long
Norman

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 20:38
by MatsP
I may well go to Pier before L-number days, and I've booked my flight to Hannover.

--
Mats

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 22:18
by The.Dark.One
Another loricariin from the shop. Not sure if they have any of these left but they came in as Loricaria sp Rio Momon. Any ideas?

http://www.scotcat.com/thedarkone/loric ... _momon.jpg

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 06:56
by Norman
Hi Steve,

That should be a propably undescribed Hemiloricaria species. I don't know anything comparable of this region.

so long
Norman

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 07:36
by The.Dark.One
Thanks

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 10:23
by CoryWally
A few pics of the Hemiodontichthys from Pier. Cracking sized fish. On their own in a 30 gallon tank. The first blurry pic shows one buried in the sand.

Cheers,
Mark.

Re: Pier Aquatics visit

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 11:03
by The.Dark.One
Yeah, theyre a good size. Male top, female bottom I think.