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Loricaria (?) sp. Playa
Posted: 18 Sep 2011, 22:04
by The.Dark.One
Re: Loricaria (?) sp. Playa
Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 11:56
by The.Dark.One
A Loricariichthys?
Re: Loricaria (?) sp. Playa
Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 12:36
by Raph
Hi,
Limatulichthys griseus , I should write
L. punctatus to be consistent with myself
.
Cheers
Raph
Re: Loricaria (?) sp. Playa
Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 13:24
by Martin S
Raph wrote:Hi,
Limatulichthys griseus , I should write
L. punctatus to be consistent with myself
.
Cheers
Raph
Whilst I have no expertise in these, looking at the images on the
page, the fish above has a much smaller 'bottom lip' than the images in the catelog page, and also the fish above has much more defined plating on it's chest than the images from the catelog page. Maybe i'm missing something more obvious, but that was just my initial observations.
Martin
Re: Loricaria (?) sp. Playa
Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 13:42
by Raph
Hi,
This is normal. The first specimen on the catelog is a small one if one considers the size of the head. The second one taken by Tiago is a breeding male. Males develop enlarged lips (like in
Hemiodontichthys, Loricariichthys, Pseudoloriaria, and Furcodontichthys)when brooding eggs. The third picture can be a female or a not breeding male. So that's why you are surprised by the difference. The size of plates can be more variable, but
Limatulichthys has well defined plates of medium size. Moreover the species is distributed all along the Amazon basin (and also in Orinoco). You can imagine that their is substantial variations between populations
.
Cheers
Raph.
Re: Loricaria (?) sp. Playa
Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 14:08
by Norman
Hi Raphael,
Raph wrote:The second one taken by Tiago is a breeding male. Males develop enlarged lips (like in Hemiodontichthys, Loricariichthys, Pseudoloriaria, and Furcodontichthys)when brooding eggs.
Are you sure with the enlarged lower lips of
Furcodontichthys novaesi? In contrast to the other namend this species has a strongly fringed lip structure.
Unfortunately this species is kept very rarely, so there is a lack of information.
so long
Norman
Re: Loricaria (?) sp. Playa
Posted: 19 Sep 2011, 14:36
by Raph
Hi Norman,
In Furcodontichthys, fringed barbels are gathered at the lips' corner, and in the original description, Lucia mentioned enlarged lips in breeding males as in Hemiodontichthys.
Cheers
Raph