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Is this Liposarcus pardalis?
Posted: 29 Sep 2003, 18:58
by Caol_ila
Hi!
From a german forum...
http://www.l-welse.com/forum/index.php? ... c=1567&hl=
i think its Liposarcus pardalis...
Any expert opinions?
Posted: 29 Sep 2003, 19:05
by Silurus
i think its Liposarcus pardalis
No doubt about it.
Posted: 29 Sep 2003, 20:35
by Yann
Hi!
Yeap !
I totally agree with you. Liposarcus pardalis!
Cheers
Yann
Posted: 29 Sep 2003, 23:04
by Caol_ila
Very interestingly 8!! of these were sold as L188 telling they buyer they wouldnt grow too large...
Posted: 29 Sep 2003, 23:06
by Silurus
I hope the buyer didn't pay an L-number price for the fish.
Posted: 29 Sep 2003, 23:20
by Caol_ila
No they didnt but still its pretty bad to realize at home to have a bunch of these "monsters" sitting in the tank...since i mistakenly bought a chocolate pleco i always check the dorsal fin before i buy a fish that i dont know...
Re: Smb doesnt know what this is...
Posted: 01 Oct 2003, 14:19
by Sari
Caol_ila wrote:i think its Liposarcus pardalis...
Could somebody help me out on this: I've always wondered when somebody has a "common pleco" and mostly it is being identified as
Liposarcus pardalis here. However, where I live (Finland), most commons are said to be
Liposarcus multiradiatus. Why's that? What's the difference with these - or is there any? - how to tell them apart and why would it be so that in different parts the species vary (yes, due to imports of course, but most imports are centralised in Europe, I would think)?
And why
L. multiradiatus is not featured in the cat-e-log at all?
I used to have a common
(L. multiradiatus - I always thought), but she just died in August at the age of (appr.) 12 years with a tumor. She was examined (and put to sleep) at the local laboratory and diagnosed otherwise very healthy female, but with a large benigne tumor on her side.
Posted: 01 Oct 2003, 15:44
by Silurus
Liposarcus multiradiatus is said to have a more curved dorsal profile and a head with a pattern of small irregular spots, while L. pardalis is said to have flatter dorsal profile, larger eye, and the head with the spots forming a reticulate patern.
Posted: 01 Oct 2003, 15:57
by Jools
Not very scientific, but <I>L. multiradiatus</I> is a little browner too.
Jools
Posted: 01 Oct 2003, 16:32
by Sari
OK guys, so you tell me which one was
mine?
Posted: 01 Oct 2003, 16:33
by Silurus
L. pardalis
Posted: 01 Oct 2003, 17:53
by doctorzeb
A little irrelevant, but in the german forum link above, what is the L-number "andi" shows in his avatar.
ta
rob
Posted: 01 Oct 2003, 18:54
by Jools
doctorzeb wrote:A little irrelevant, but in the german forum link above, what is the L-number "andi" shows in his avatar.
ta
rob
A very nice LDA01 I think.
Jools
Posted: 01 Oct 2003, 19:01
by doctorzeb
Blimey,
Never seen one with such stong and solid colouration.
Posted: 01 Oct 2003, 19:43
by Sari
Silurus wrote:L. pardalis
So I guess I should say "blimey" as well...
For 12 years I thought I had a multiradiatus. Who, by the way, was always called Mister and then in the "autopsy report" noted as female. So full of surprises after death.
Posted: 02 Oct 2003, 06:03
by Caol_ila
@sari Sad that your fish died like this but how much did this autopsy costs?
Posted: 02 Oct 2003, 07:30
by Sari
Caol_ila wrote:@sari Sad that your fish died like this but how much did this autopsy costs?
Yes, it was extremely painful to lose such an old friend, but in the end the tumor kept growing so I had to put end to her life. Couldn't do it myself (such a big fish!) and also wanted to know for sure what was wrong, so I delivered her to EELA, which is the National Veterinary and Food Research Institute here in Helsinki and they did the research. Examining 3 aquarium fish (brought together) costs only about 21 â?¬ so it's not much and at least then you know for sure.
They have their website also in English, although not all the pages, so if you're looking for more info, check:
http://www.eela.fi/en/index.html