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Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 17 May 2011, 15:15
by worton[pl]
Hello,

been some time since my last post :). I'm dealing with exporter from Guinea right now (Conakry). Not easy task at all. But he have something he call Synodontis panoy. Any ideas what species this could be? I've asked for photos and locality of origin but it takes enormous effort to take something from him so not sure if I will receive any additional information, sadly. And I just totally have no information about "panoy" syno ;).
Could be something interesting! If anyone have any clues would be great to read them.

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 17 May 2011, 19:25
by Richard B
Not a clue!

???

There is a river Pongo or Bakoy but no river Panoy (except in Scandanavia!) so that avenue seems dormant

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 17 May 2011, 22:28
by Silurus
But Guinea-Conakry is not in Lower Guinea (it's in Upper Guinea, or western Africa). It's more likely to be (seems to be the most common syno exported from that area).

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 18 May 2011, 07:11
by Birger
I agree, there seems to be some variation in fish that get called could be one of these possible "variants"...there is really not many known choices specifically from this area in the geographic zone Upper Guinea, I am not sure they would be shipping fish in from other areas.

Birger

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 02:39
by worton[pl]
Hello,

I have just done unpacking shipment. Those synos are super cool but don't look much like waterloti. However they are still in stress coloration so I will give them some time and then take photos.

I have also a second species which was sold as nigriventris (which is not for sure).

Some boring cichlids ;p and also super cool eels, looks like 2 different species as well.

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 03:27
by racoll
Cool. Looking forward to seeing all of these.

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 03:36
by Birger
Those synos are super cool
Allright, lets see em...I remember the other order that got messed up bad... so I am glad these made it to you this time.

Birger

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 13:00
by worton[pl]
Hello,

this second species sold as nigriventris is probably waterloti. Probably because I have never ever seen synos in such a bad condition. They were kept without food for months. Probably were caughth and no one was willing to buy them. When I saw them first time I though this is Euchilichthys so imagine how thin they were. But are eating nicely now so should back to form in no time. This panoy synos have strange mouth. I don't know how to describe it, it is just not like in other synos. And the biggest is less than 5 cm TL. Will take photos as soon as they stop panick when I approach tank.

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 04 Jun 2011, 07:11
by worton[pl]
Hello,

both species were collected near MAFERIYAH village. They are eating like pigs :D

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 04 Jun 2011, 07:52
by worton[pl]
Hello,

have anybody possess a photo of very young Mochokiella paynei? The smallest specimens of "panoy" looks a lot like fish on page 351 of Seegers book.

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 04 Jun 2011, 19:55
by Birger
Hi Worton

I emailed you the original description for Mochokiella paynei if it will help...there is a small section where Mochokiella, Microsynodontis and Synodontis are compared.

Birger

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 05 Jun 2011, 08:43
by Richard B
worton[pl] wrote:Hello,

have anybody possess a photo of very young Mochokiella paynei? The smallest specimens of "panoy" looks a lot like fish on page 351 of Seegers book.

I don't think that pic is a mochokiella at all - a synodontis most likely

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 13:34
by worton[pl]
Hello,

sorry it took so long but more fishes means more work hehehe.

Anyways on a link below you can see some photos. Sorry but I just suck on making photos. In 2-3 weeks my friend will visit me and take much better photos.

http://www.hassar.eu/katalog_wpis/139/u ... rom_guinea

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 14:07
by MatsP
Very nice looking fish. Can't say what it is, I'm afraid.

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Mats

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 14:53
by Silurus
This is .

Panoy is probably a mangling of the specific epithet.

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 02 Jul 2011, 15:10
by worton[pl]
Hello,

so there are probably more populations than just in Sierra Leone :). Good to know.

Re: Synodontis panoy, Guinea Conakry.

Posted: 04 Jul 2011, 14:27
by Birger
As far as I know still just the one but it is not far, just a skip across the border into Sierra Leone from where they were shipped(Conakry), these are fairly small countries.

Birger