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mystery cory
Posted: 08 May 2011, 01:49
by nicofish
ok so its labeled as C. paleatus, but its clearly not. theres also one SA bumble bee cat which im unsure of (M iheringii perhaps)
sorry I wasnt sure where to put this thread since it encompassed more that a cory.
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/view ... &&start=15
theres the link (unfortunately these are not my pictures
Re: mystery cory
Posted: 08 May 2011, 08:16
by MatsP
Why do you say "clearly not" C. paleatus? It shows orange fins, but many wild-caught fish have more orange in the body colouration than they do when they are in captivity - I'm not sure why this is, but there are several examples of this in the cat-elog.
Certainly the fact that they caught Gymogeophagus gymnogenys, it is in the right part of South America to find C. paleatus. There are a couple of other species that look similar,
is another possibility, given the slightly longer dorsal fin.
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Mats
Re: mystery cory
Posted: 08 May 2011, 13:40
by AndiH
He and I had spoken about this last night before he posted here. The way the fish appears in the photo was a bit puzzling to the two of us with less experience.
Re: mystery cory
Posted: 08 May 2011, 18:00
by nicofish
MatsP wrote:Why do you say "clearly not" C. paleatus? It shows orange fins, but many wild-caught fish have more orange in the body colouration than they do when they are in captivity - I'm not sure why this is, but there are several examples of this in the cat-elog.
Certainly the fact that they caught Gymogeophagus gymnogenys, it is in the right part of South America to find C. paleatus. There are a couple of other species that look similar,
is another possibility, given the slightly longer dorsal fin.
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Mats
yes but what accounts for that flame orange tail. I think you nailed the body shape, but that tail
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also were you able to ID the bumblebee cat in the thread?
Re: mystery cory
Posted: 08 May 2011, 18:31
by The.Dark.One
Looks like a paleatus to me but it would be helpful to know where they were caught
Re: mystery cory
Posted: 08 May 2011, 22:32
by MatsP
Without seeing the fish settled in an aquarium, it's almost impossible to say what it ACTUALLY looks like. I still think it's a match for C. pleatus. I have seen other pictures of recently caught fish with a golden/orange colour, when they are then settled in a aqurium, they look much less yellow/orange.
Compare this picture:
With this:
It may not be the same fish in the two pictures, but it's not the only picture I have seen where this colour change occurs - I've also seen it on Cichlids, so it's not unique to catfish either.
As to the Bumblebee, it's very difficult to identify any bumblebee. But I can almost certainly say it's not M. iheringi, as that's a fish from Venezuela.
Turmero. I suspect the true M. iheringi hasn't been imported for quite a few years, even if that's what we see in the shops.
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Mats
Re: mystery cory
Posted: 11 May 2011, 19:57
by nicofish
thanks for all the help. ill look into it a bit more.
well so much for my dream of having iheringii.
well maybe ill be able to catch one someday.
Re: mystery cory
Posted: 11 May 2011, 20:40
by Birger Amundsen
Mats, the pick you show is C boesmani...
Re: mystery cory
Posted: 11 May 2011, 21:45
by MatsP
Birger Amundsen wrote:Mats, the pick you show is C boesmani...
Yes. The point was to compare the first and second image with regards to COLOUR of the fish, not suggesting that it was a suggestion for the species (it certainly isn't, as it originates a few thousand km in the "wrong" place, north of the equator, not south!).
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Mats
Re: mystery cory
Posted: 11 May 2011, 21:49
by MatsP
nicofish wrote:thanks for all the help. ill look into it a bit more.
well so much for my dream of having iheringii.
well maybe ill be able to catch one someday.
There are several other SIMILAR looking
Microglanis in the trade, so keep your eyes open and you'll find something....
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Mats
Re: mystery cory
Posted: 11 May 2011, 22:25
by Birger Amundsen
MatsP wrote:Birger Amundsen wrote:Mats, the pick you show is C boesmani...
Yes. The point was to compare the first and second image with regards to COLOUR of the fish, not suggesting that it was a suggestion for the species (it certainly isn't, as it originates a few thousand km in the "wrong" place, north of the equator, not south!).
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Mats
My bad again, for not reading all the tread, sorry...
Re: mystery cory
Posted: 16 May 2011, 22:12
by nicofish
I doubt ill come across and bumblbee cats anytime soon. the rarest fish ive got is A. pectifrons. hard to get fish were I am. thanks to all the help regarding the cory ID.
Re: mystery cory
Posted: 16 May 2011, 22:27
by MatsP
We get Microglanis every now and again in shops. I'm pretty sure that they are available in the US too.
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Mats