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mystery cory

Posted: 08 May 2011, 01:49
by nicofish
ok so its labeled as C. paleatus, but its clearly not. theres also one SA bumble bee cat which im unsure of (M iheringii perhaps)

sorry I wasnt sure where to put this thread since it encompassed more that a cory.


http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/view ... &&start=15

theres the link (unfortunately these are not my pictures

Re: mystery cory

Posted: 08 May 2011, 08:16
by MatsP
Why do you say "clearly not" C. paleatus? It shows orange fins, but many wild-caught fish have more orange in the body colouration than they do when they are in captivity - I'm not sure why this is, but there are several examples of this in the cat-elog.

Certainly the fact that they caught Gymogeophagus gymnogenys, it is in the right part of South America to find C. paleatus. There are a couple of other species that look similar, is another possibility, given the slightly longer dorsal fin.

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Mats

Re: mystery cory

Posted: 08 May 2011, 13:40
by AndiH
He and I had spoken about this last night before he posted here. The way the fish appears in the photo was a bit puzzling to the two of us with less experience.

Re: mystery cory

Posted: 08 May 2011, 18:00
by nicofish
MatsP wrote:Why do you say "clearly not" C. paleatus? It shows orange fins, but many wild-caught fish have more orange in the body colouration than they do when they are in captivity - I'm not sure why this is, but there are several examples of this in the cat-elog.

Certainly the fact that they caught Gymogeophagus gymnogenys, it is in the right part of South America to find C. paleatus. There are a couple of other species that look similar, is another possibility, given the slightly longer dorsal fin.

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Mats
yes but what accounts for that flame orange tail. I think you nailed the body shape, but that tail @-).


also were you able to ID the bumblebee cat in the thread?

Re: mystery cory

Posted: 08 May 2011, 18:31
by The.Dark.One
Looks like a paleatus to me but it would be helpful to know where they were caught

Re: mystery cory

Posted: 08 May 2011, 22:32
by MatsP
Without seeing the fish settled in an aquarium, it's almost impossible to say what it ACTUALLY looks like. I still think it's a match for C. pleatus. I have seen other pictures of recently caught fish with a golden/orange colour, when they are then settled in a aqurium, they look much less yellow/orange.

Compare this picture:
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With this:
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It may not be the same fish in the two pictures, but it's not the only picture I have seen where this colour change occurs - I've also seen it on Cichlids, so it's not unique to catfish either.


As to the Bumblebee, it's very difficult to identify any bumblebee. But I can almost certainly say it's not M. iheringi, as that's a fish from Venezuela. Turmero. I suspect the true M. iheringi hasn't been imported for quite a few years, even if that's what we see in the shops.

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Mats

Re: mystery cory

Posted: 11 May 2011, 19:57
by nicofish
thanks for all the help. ill look into it a bit more.

well so much for my dream of having iheringii. :(

well maybe ill be able to catch one someday. :d

Re: mystery cory

Posted: 11 May 2011, 20:40
by Birger Amundsen
Mats, the pick you show is C boesmani...

Re: mystery cory

Posted: 11 May 2011, 21:45
by MatsP
Birger Amundsen wrote:Mats, the pick you show is C boesmani...
Yes. The point was to compare the first and second image with regards to COLOUR of the fish, not suggesting that it was a suggestion for the species (it certainly isn't, as it originates a few thousand km in the "wrong" place, north of the equator, not south!).

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Mats

Re: mystery cory

Posted: 11 May 2011, 21:49
by MatsP
nicofish wrote:thanks for all the help. ill look into it a bit more.

well so much for my dream of having iheringii. :(

well maybe ill be able to catch one someday. :d
There are several other SIMILAR looking Microglanis in the trade, so keep your eyes open and you'll find something....

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Mats

Re: mystery cory

Posted: 11 May 2011, 22:25
by Birger Amundsen
MatsP wrote:
Birger Amundsen wrote:Mats, the pick you show is C boesmani...
Yes. The point was to compare the first and second image with regards to COLOUR of the fish, not suggesting that it was a suggestion for the species (it certainly isn't, as it originates a few thousand km in the "wrong" place, north of the equator, not south!).

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Mats
My bad again, for not reading all the tread, sorry...

Re: mystery cory

Posted: 16 May 2011, 22:12
by nicofish
I doubt ill come across and bumblbee cats anytime soon. the rarest fish ive got is A. pectifrons. hard to get fish were I am. thanks to all the help regarding the cory ID.

Re: mystery cory

Posted: 16 May 2011, 22:27
by MatsP
We get Microglanis every now and again in shops. I'm pretty sure that they are available in the US too.

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Mats