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Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 20:50
by kizno1
Would you recommend them?
Im trying to work out what to do with my 30G and noticed these in wildwoods for £11 each. Does that seem like a fair price? and how many should i get?
Ive seen people pic of them on here a few times and always thought they where great looking but never seen any around before.
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 21:13
by MatsP
It's not a bad price - small ones I bought at MA @ Brackness were listed at £12 each.
They are fine to be in a group. If you can get them sexed (they aren't hard to sex), I'd suggest you get more females than males...
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Mats
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 21:15
by kizno1
Cheers, They havent got anything about sexes but if i do go for them ill speak to them first, Ill have to order them and get them posted though so not sure if they will be able to.
what sort of size group do you think i should go for? The tanks 36x12x16" i was thinking around 6 which would mean i could have 2 males 4 females if i can get them sexed.
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 21:34
by MatsP
The males have a "gonopodium" like a Guppy, females don't. So as long as they are not tiny, they are relatively easy to sex. And a place like Wildwoods should be able to get you males and females.
As long as you are within the amoount of stock you can keep in the tank, 6 should be fine.
Bear in mind that during the day, if there isn't food in the tank, you probably won't see much of them. At night, or when there is food about, they will go hyperactive...
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Mats
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 25 Jan 2011, 21:39
by kizno1
Thank, Yeah i was reading through the sexing, i just wasnt sure if they would be able to sex them for me.
So far they where the only thing i was planning for the tank. Is there anything else that would work well with them?
I read that but aslong as i see them every now and again im not to bothered and they seem like and interesting fish to watch, if i can i wouldnt mind having a go at breeding.
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 17:26
by kizno1
Just noticed they sell Tatia intermedia aswell. Is there much different between the 2? which one do you think would be best?
Any ideas on tank mates?
Cheers
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 17:30
by MatsP
Have a look at
- I've never kept T. intermedia, but I beleive they are fairly easy to keep, but not quite as stunningly marked.
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Mats
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 17:49
by kizno1
MatsP wrote:Have a look at
- I've never kept T. intermedia, but I beleive they are fairly easy to keep, but not quite as stunningly marked.
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Mats
I have read there profile was just wondering if any one had any experience with them and what they would recommend. Ive been doing some searching and corys seem like a good tank mate. Would cory be likely to eat the eggs if they did spawn? If not then i might go for 5-6 Centromochlus perugiae and a group of corys.
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 18:06
by MatsP
eggs don't get eaten by Plecos or Corys in my experience.
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Mats
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 18:29
by kizno1
Cheers, There quite nice but i think i prefer the C.perugiae. ff i went for something like Corydoras pygmaeus or Corydoras habrosus hopefully the eggs wouldnt get eaten.
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 18:29
by Marc van Arc
T. intermedia gets almost 3 times bigger than C perugiae. Both species are nice and when given proper care will easily live for 6 years or more. I think perugiae will fit your tank better due to its size. And of course I'm sure you will enjoy them a lot.
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 18:48
by Richard B
Perugiae are indeed as super little fish.
In the uk they are generally quite available - in fact at the lat CAS auction breeding pairs sold for £7.50 - bargain!!!
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 18:54
by kizno1
Marc van Arc wrote:T. intermedia gets almost 3 times bigger than C perugiae. Both species are nice and when given proper care will easily live for 6 years or more. I think perugiae will fit your tank better due to its size. And of course I'm sure you will enjoy them a lot.
Thank, ill go for them then, Just need to finish selling of my other fish.
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 18:55
by kizno1
Richard B wrote:Perugiae are indeed as super little fish.
In the uk they are generally quite available - in fact at the lat CAS auction breeding pairs sold for £7.50 - bargain!!!
Thanks, do you know anywhere else i would be able to get them? My mum doesnt drive so its either find some locally and ive never seen any or get some delivered.
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 19:04
by Richard B
kizno1 wrote:Richard B wrote:Perugiae are indeed as super little fish.
In the uk they are generally quite available - in fact at the lat CAS auction breeding pairs sold for £7.50 - bargain!!!
Thanks, do you know anywhere else i would be able to get them? My mum doesnt drive so its either find some locally and ive never seen any or get some delivered.
Is there a branch of MA near you? They get them in fairly often. You shouldn't have a problem getting them as they sell pretty well and there are a few places near me that have had them recently so they should be available from a wholesaler to a local retailer.
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 19:28
by kizno1
Richard B wrote:
Is there a branch of MA near you? They get them in fairly often. You shouldn't have a problem getting them as they sell pretty well and there are a few places near me that have had them recently so they should be available from a wholesaler to a local retailer.
Theres one in Cambridge but thats still a good 50-60mins away, Ill have to see i i can get up there. I should be going Swallow aquatics in East harling next weekend, they can normally get in most fish so ill ask there first.
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 19:53
by MatsP
The group I got from MA were (according to chap that looks after ordering stock) bred in Indonesia.
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Mats
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 26 Jan 2011, 20:01
by kizno1
MatsP wrote:The group I got from MA were (according to chap that looks after ordering stock) bred in Indonesia.
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Mats
Ill see if i can get down there soon then.
do you know anyone one here breeds them and has any available?
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 27 Jan 2011, 16:47
by kizno1
One last thing, Can you leave the eggs/fry in with the adults or do they need to be removed? I have a 20,15 and 7G i could move the try to.
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 27 Jan 2011, 19:34
by MatsP
If you have some floating plants, the parents will leave (some) fry alone (not sure if it works without floating plants, as I've never tried).
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Mats
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 27 Jan 2011, 20:09
by Marc van Arc
I have the impression that females sort of guard the eggs and indeed eggs remain untouched by both males and females. Fry is a different matter however, because the parents are unable to differentiate between their own fry and "anything" edible. This may become clearer to you after seeing their feeding frenzy (try bloodworms!).
Imo it's best to remove the parents - it's much easier than removing the fragile fry.
Re: Centromochlus perugiae
Posted: 27 Jan 2011, 20:10
by kizno1
MatsP wrote:If you have some floating plants, the parents will leave (some) fry alone (not sure if it works without floating plants, as I've never tried).
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Mats
Thanks, If i do get them ill maybe keep the first lot with them and depending on how that goes i always have the 21G available for fry.